Peter_n_Margaret wrote:

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Koalas were introduced to Kangaroo Island.
Their numbers are such that they are killing the trees. The next step is that they starve to death.
Is that OK with you?
Cheers,
Peter

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 As usual Peter,you are correct,but apparently,for some people,there is way too much thinking involved here.                        Spare me!

-- Edited by yobarr on Saturday 13th of July 2019 06:36:50 PM

Fur seals are NZ fur seals & they are not native here. They compete with the local seals & are in plague proportion. The fur seals were only found on southern KI & nth & south Neptune Is back in 1974 when i was working on a Cray boat. They are now all the way up both gulfs in SA. The seal in my avatar is the local type at Sth Neptunes, there was plenty of NZ fur seals as well.

-- Edited by DeBe on Saturday 13th of July 2019 08:09:09 PM

As usual there is no thinking outside the box, true some areas may have an over population as there are ideal conditions no wild dogs, had plenty of food and no humans doing atrocious things to them. I seem to remember that when there was and over supply on Kangaroo Is. years back, some were moved to the mainland where they were very thin in some regions, through no fault of their own.
Now with the prediction that the Koala is going to become extinct in the next generation or two without intervention, wouldn't it be worthwhile to trap and move Koalas rather then shoot or poison them?

I guess you would advocate relocating Corellas and seals too?
How about rounding up a few thousand kangaroos?
Cheers,
Peter

We live in the southern hills of Adelaide in a Grey Box woodland and have koalas on our property on a regular basis.
Traditionally, they did not live in this area as the trees here are not ideal, but they have been pushed out of their preferred area a few kms away because of residential housing development.
It is not the houses that are the problem, but the lack of appropriate feed trees. They have little fear, which also makes them vulnerable.
The down side is that they often suffer from kidney failure. Maybe this is due to the different trees, I am not sure. We always leave water out for them and they often take advantage of that in the summer, particularly the youngsters.

We found this one on the road, licking water out of the gutter. It drank a lot of what we offered. This is often a sign of kidney failure and we called the local rescue group. Unfortunately it did not survive.

It is a pity that some who know nothing about these and other animals always think they know more than the experts. If you want to help, join a group led by those who do know something and you will discover that it is not as simple as it first appears.

Cheers,
Peter

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:

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I guess you would advocate relocating Corellas and seals too?
How about rounding up a few thousand kangaroos?
Cheers,
Peter

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 Koalas are endangered on the mainland.

For many years I lived on a property where we had colonies of Koalas and every year on request on a particular Sunday morning we all took stock. The result year on year was the same.....declining numbers.

If Kangaroo Island has an over breeding problem then why not introduce a relocation program instead of accepting the inevitable if this thread is anything to go by.

Once we've worked out what to do about the Koalas, which is what I believe this thread is about, then we can move on to the corellas, seals and kangaroos. I believe kangaroos are prolific on Kangaroo Island!

montie wrote:

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For many years I lived on a property where we had colonies of Koalas and every year on request on a particular Sunday morning we all took stock. The result year on year was the same.....declining numbers.

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 And just EXACTLY why are the numbers declining Montie?

Until and unless you not only answer that question but remove the total causes of that decline, shifting more koalas into that environment will simply be a death sentence for them and the ones already there.

You know some stuff about caravans. There are people who know about Koalas and have studied them for decades. We without that knowledge and experience should be very cautious about telling them how to do their jobs.

Cheers,

Peter 

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:

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montie wrote:

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For many years I lived on a property where we had colonies of Koalas and every year on request on a particular Sunday morning we all took stock. The result year on year was the same.....declining numbers.

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 And just EXACTLY why are the numbers declining Montie?

Until and unless you not only answer that question but remove the total causes of that decline, shifting more koalas into that environment will simply be a death sentence for them and the ones already there.

You know some stuff about caravans. There are people who know about Koalas and have studied them for decades. We without that knowledge and experience should be very cautious about telling them how to do their jobs.

Cheers,

Peter 

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 Koala numbers are declining because of shrinking habitat, disease and traffic and dog casualties.

So we need to address these problems with acceptable outcomes rather than culling in one area when we have declining numbers in another.

Suggested solutions are far more positive and possibly productive rather than accepting a negative situation and acting accordingly.

Culling may be an acceptable solution for over population of kangaroos or maybe even crocodiles but definitely not for Koalas.

 

montie wrote:

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 Koala numbers are declining because of shrinking habitat, disease and traffic and dog casualties.

So we need to address these problems with acceptable outcomes rather than culling in one area when we have declining numbers in another.

Suggested solutions are far more positive and possibly productive rather than accepting a negative situation and acting accordingly.

Culling may be an acceptable solution for over population of kangaroos or maybe even crocodiles but definitely not for Koalas.

 

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You are right Montie, but the fact of reducing habitat is not being addressed at all, from what I can see.

Urban sprawl, new coal mines and any other activity with money attached, all get priority over koala habitat. Creating new habitat takes decades. Land clearing in Queensland is still acceptable. Where will this new habitat be? It wold be wonderful if it happened, but ..

Until the habitat starts increasing rather than decreasing, moving koalas to those areas where the population is decreasing is counter productive. If the habitat is increased, they won't need to be relocated to those areas as they will take care of the population increase themselves. Native animals do that.

Cheers,

Peter