Caution again on old- sh tyres

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Caution again on old- sh tyres

Mike196 · Senior Member

I had one on the old Van that I caught just before it disintergrated. Had been on the back like yours, but had been subject to UV from the Sun. Had only done about 10,000Km on the road, if that.

boab · Senior Member

i doubt age was the problem if it was 8 yrs michelin used to cap truck tyres 8 or 9 times so long as the casing had not been worn out, that tyre looks as if it has worn on the inside and perhaps water has got in and rusted the steel but what ever the reason lucky it was just a passenger

Whenarewethere · Guru

Do you have TPMS.

Was there a leak even if briefly or was it an instantaneous fail.

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

boab wrote:
i doubt age was the problem if it was 8 yrs michelin used to cap truck tyres 8 or 9 times so long as the casing had not been worn out, that tyre looks as if it has worn on the inside and perhaps water has got in and rusted the steel but what ever the reason lucky it was just a passenger

I agree.

There is damage showing through the bald side that probably indicated separation in the tread at some earlier time.

Michelin allow their tyres to be retreaded at up to 10 years old.

I have just remover 2 @ 12 year old Michelins from our vehicle and still have 2 Bridgestones on the rear that will stay there for a trip from Adelaide to Brisbane next year.

Cheers,

Peter

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Easy to say now . Yes my guess theres been some damage, water ingress but its had a good cover over it while being a spare . .But couldnt tell before this . The tread is just above wear limits . Theres is no bald area . I dont think these tyres are approved for retreads ? Anyway just putting it out there ! Be aware of age, condition of your tyres !! Having tread alone is not enough !! Seems this was an issue with XRV tyres . New tyres are the better XZEs 225/ 19.5

-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Sunday 6th of December 2020 09:31:53 PM

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Fixed .

yobarr · Guru

Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Easy to say now . Yes my guess theres been some damage, water ingress but its had a good cover over it while being a spare . .But couldnt tell before this . The tread is just above wear limits . Theres is no bald area . I dont think these tyres are approved for retreads ? Anyway just putting it out there ! Be aware of age, condition of your tyres !! Having tread alone is not enough !! Seems this was an issue with XRV tyres . New tyres are the better XZEs 225/ 19.5
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Sunday 6th of December 2020 09:31:53 PM

My eyesight is not what it once was,but I cannot see how that tyre meets the legal requirement of 1.5mm tread depth across the entire width of the tyre?Cheers

dabbler · Guru

Doesn't appear legal to me.

miroku12g · Senior Member

Michelin as a company never has or had retreaded tyres in Australia, they do use an Hot Cap process in Europe called a "re-mix", there were & is a few companies in Aust using the hotcap process retreading, but, Bandag cold process is the preferred process for trucks. A good truck operator on his tractor unit / prime mover will use new tyres on the steer and drive axles, as they wear he would retread [Bandag] and use on the units drive axle, as time goes he would retread again [Bandag] and gradually move back to the trailer [if he had a trailer] if not he would off load his case against the cost of new tyres [an average price for a "Clean Skin" Michelin 11.22.5 T/less was around $110]. an average cost for IE; Bridgestone was $90, Double coin [Chinese] $60 The more he / they retreaded [average 3 times] the lower the cost per Klm.

Just some useless information really.

Ps; I have seen a tyre "LetGo" while on a spare carrier before

Cheers

Dave

boab · Senior Member

What is retreading?
Retreading means replacing a tyre's worn tread with a new tread. It is perfect for fleets that want to cut their operating costs and environmental footprint.

MICHELIN is a pioneer: it has been retreading tyres for nearly a century and is always developing its innovative technology. MICHELIN casings in various ranges are designed to be retreaded several times. With professional management aimed at meeting your business needs, MICHELIN can help you reduce your environmental footprint and maximise your profitability without compromising safety That is lifted off a Michelin website and when i was a boy a letter was rubbed off the michelin name each time a truck tyre was retreaded

miroku12g · Senior Member

Hi boab,
Michelin stopped the buffing off a letter each time it was retreaded, [Trade name defaced reasons,] and was replaced with a Bandag Logo each time, what I'm saying is that Michelin call their retread "Remix" of course it still is a retread, [But an "Hotcap" unlike Bandag which is a "Cold" process,] another thing unique to Michelin was the fact it was able to be re-grooved to a given depth, I think my message was all about "Cost per Klm" for fleet or owner drivers. More useless information is the the X is Michelins registered trade mark Ie; XZA,XZU,XAS etc.

Anyway.............What was the question again ? LOL

Cheers
Dave

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

In any case this tyre could not be retreaded ! I have issues with retreads in the past ! Ok for trailers ! But pretty much no one here runs this type of tyre on their trailer !! Obviously no one would put their best tyre as spare ! Shows if this tyre was on the front ? Been over some roads . Singleton to Windsor where theres a soft roadside, once off the road your NEVER coming back !! This is a 225 -70 - 19.5 Not a super heavy duty semi tyre ! Damage can be done and we are NOT aware of it !! Thinking of some corners if it had tyre issues !!

aussietraveller · Guru

My attitude to tyres has always been if its 6 years old or looks like it could have potential problem replace it with a new one today's tyre prices make it easy to make safety your number one priority especially when you also consider the value of what is riding on them