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Hi all been thinking about buying a 200 ah lithium battery in particular a kings .. or enerdrive ?  with so many on  sale need help to make that decision ? Anyone out there that can do a recommendation ....

 

thanks

 



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goldenyears wrote:

Hi all been thinking about buying a 200 ah lithium battery in particular a kings .. or enerdrive ?  with so many on  sale need help to make that decision ? Anyone out there that can do a recommendation ....

 

thanks

 Enerdrive is a VERY good brand that I considered before buying 8x90ah Victron. Kings is, to me, an unknown quantity although I will say that their spotlights work well on my car, Cheers



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thanks yobarr

 



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Amortised quality is more economical in the long run.



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will stick with enerdrive bit expensive but perhaps better in long run ... 



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goldenyears wrote:

will stick with enerdrive bit expensive but perhaps better in long run ... 

 Good decision. Cheers



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I got 170ah Lithium battery from Aussie Batteries, all going great, set up with solar panel on top of my 200, always at 100%


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Lozza can I ask how long have you had the Aussie Lithiums installed?

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Hi goldenyears,

Cheaper to get two x 100ah, or similar, than single 200ah.

Example...

2 x 135ah $503.91ea ($1107.82 for 270ah).

Four years warranty. Connect up to four parallel/serial.

 

135Ah 12V Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery LiFePO4 Deep Cycle Solar BMS RV Recycle 602353257669 | eBay

 

 



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Thanks dicko will have to check all that out .. 

 

My concern with so many brands out there the choice is the hardest !!  



-- Edited by goldenyears on Sunday 5th of June 2022 02:07:01 PM

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Thanks dicko will have to check all that out .. 

 

My concern with so many brands out there the choice is the hardest !!  cheapest not always the best ... 



-- Edited by goldenyears on Sunday 5th of June 2022 02:07:01 PM



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goldenyears wrote:

Hi all been thinking about buying a 200 ah lithium battery in particular a kings .. or enerdrive ?  with so many on  sale need help to make that decision ? Anyone out there that can do a recommendation ....

 

thanks

 

 



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Dick0 wrote:

Hi goldenyears,

Cheaper to get two x 100ah, or similar, than single 200ah.

Example...

2 x 135ah $503.91ea ($1107.82 for 270ah).

Four years warranty. Connect up to four parallel/serial.

 

135Ah 12V Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery LiFePO4 Deep Cycle Solar BMS RV Recycle 602353257669 | eBay

 

 

12.7kg is extremely light for 135AH.



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Hi DickO,

Reading the specs of those batteries, the maximum continuous discharge current is 50A.

In my opinion, a battery of that size should have at least 100A continuous discharge.

Just my opinion...



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Whenarewethere wrote:
Dick0 wrote:

Hi goldenyears,

Cheaper to get two x 100ah, or similar, than single 200ah.

Example...

2 x 135ah $503.91ea ($1107.82 for 270ah).

Four years warranty. Connect up to four parallel/serial.

 

135Ah 12V Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery LiFePO4 Deep Cycle Solar BMS RV Recycle 602353257669 | eBay

 

 

12.7kg is extremely light for 135AH.

 Agreed. Garbage product. You get what you pay for.  Cheers



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woofta and precious wrote:

Hi DickO,

Reading the specs of those batteries, the maximum continuous discharge current is 50A.

In my opinion, a battery of that size should have at least 100A continuous discharge.

Just my opinion...

 Hi w & p,

Same specs as your batteries only higher capacity and slightly heavier. 50ah continuous discharge works for me.



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Whenarewethere wrote:
Dick0 wrote:

Hi goldenyears,

Cheaper to get two x 100ah, or similar, than single 200ah.

Example...

2 x 135ah $503.91ea ($1107.82 for 270ah).

Four years warranty. Connect up to four parallel/serial.

 

135Ah 12V Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery LiFePO4 Deep Cycle Solar BMS RV Recycle 602353257669 | eBay

 

 

12.7kg is extremely light for 135AH.

 Agreed. Garbage product. You get what you pay for.  Cheers

 Hi yobarr,

And your recommendation, as an example, of 135ah LiFePO4 brand and cost is....?

 



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I suppose the one redeeming feature is that it will float 22% above the water.

 

It does pose the question, why so much space in the box?

 

Whereas a Victron lithium battery would sink quickly without trace!



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Whenarewethere wrote:

I suppose the one redeeming feature is that it will float 22% above the water.

 

It does pose the question, why so much space in the box?

 

Whereas a Victron lithium battery would sink quickly without trace!

 Hi W,

And your point is?



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Battery vs probably no battery!



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Whenarewethere wrote:

Battery vs probably no battery!

 Hi W, And your point about floating batteries is...?



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You get what you pay for.



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Whenarewethere wrote:

You get what you pay for.

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Especially when it comes to sinking batteries. 

 

And just for curiosity, how many 100ah-135ah Victron LiFePO4 batteries are in your system?



-- Edited by Dick0 on Monday 6th of June 2022 04:42:39 PM

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This tread will tell you:

 

https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t65231112/custom-6x20-watts-solar-setup-with-mppt/



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http://www.lowenergydevelopments.com.au/batteries/LithiumBatteries

 



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Whenarewethere wrote:

This tread will tell you:

 

https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t65231112/custom-6x20-watts-solar-setup-with-mppt/

 Tells me it's a bits of this and a bit's of that.

And maybe the batteries are sinkable. smilesmilesmile



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Hylife wrote:

http://www.lowenergydevelopments.com.au/batteries/LithiumBatteries

 

 Nice batteries for sure, but out of my camping price range, and specs more for off grid home base systems utilizing high end 240V inverter multi appliance energy usage.



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Look at Renogy 200amp specs seem ok



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$2399 is a a bit rich for a 200Ah Enerdrive battery.

8 x 105Ah A grade cells and Daly BMS can be bought from China for about $611 + shipping. Given that these companies can buy them cheaper that will leave plenty of $'s for a case, labour and profit.

Or you can buy the battery made up $624 + Shipping.

www.alibaba.com/product-detail/EV-12V-200ah-lithium-lifepo4-solar_1600145617707.html



-- Edited by TimTim on Tuesday 7th of June 2022 10:43:20 PM

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I've had my 170ah Lithium battery for only 2 months, put it in back on my Landcruiser with a 210w Solar panel on car roof, plus a Redarc charger from 2nd battery.
main use is my 85lt car fridge, got sick and tied of camping, having no power from 2nd battery after few days, so yeh, good set up, solar charges initially, then Redarc takes over if no solar. point is we've all had fridges not work, just want cold drinks and meat etc in car fridge, next will be 2 Lithiums in caravan

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