For at least 20 years in Victoria I've reported smokers that throw their butts on the ground near or from inside their car. The penalty used to be around $150.
Victoria has had a reporting system with the EPA for more than that period and I have been active in such activity. I've reported two guys in Bendigo that, on a total fire ban both threw their lit cigarettes out their windows- double fine for the driver. I've recently had a woman arrive at a council patrolled car park. While waiting in traffice near me she threw her cigarette out the window. I asked her to pick it up and got the "bird". She then parked in a disabled parking spot and entered the shopping centre. I noted she didnt have a disability sticker, took a picture. When I rang the EPA (I had forgotten my online password) the guy told me the fine was now $370 for an unlit cigarette and a whopping $740 for a lit cigarette.
Then I rang the council and as I was leaving the area the parking attendant was writing a fine for her car being illegally parked.
I have no qualms about dobbing! That "bird" cost her just under $1000. I may be required to go to court, wont worry me.
Tony
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If a few more people took this socially-responsible course of action when these entitled ah souls are observed, there MAY be a small reduction in the number of such people who believe that rules don't apply to them.
Wouldn't hold my breath though, but at least you're trying. Again, well done!Cheers
If a few more people took this socially-responsible course of action when these entitled ah souls are observed, there MAY be a small reduction in the number of such people who believe that rules don't apply to them.
Wouldn't hold my breath though, but at least you're trying. Again, well done!Cheers
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I agree with what you have been doing.
Shocked at the behaviour of some drivers.
I posted on here two days ago under an old tailgating thread (didn't want to start a new thread) about being tailgated by a company van last Friday.
Emailed the company and said if I cop it again I will be ringing through to the next police station to have their "idiot" dealt with.
Have mentioned to a few mates we seem to be over-run with idiots in this day and age.
We suspect idiots have bred more idiots and we are now outnumbered.
My mum is 96 and has never had a disabled sticker but I agree with the massive fine for anyone denying a disabled person at close to facility carpark.
A few weeks ago I was driving through a 40 KM school zone and had some fool woman trying to overtake me on the left.
Then through a chronic speed trap downhill 50 KM zone and another work zone at 40 KM.
When we approached dual lanes at a roundabout, this idiot roared past me and the passenger gave me the bird.
For doing the speed limit - honestly, a licence is a privilege, many drivers should have this privilege revoked.
It's not 'dobbing'. My view is that it's about being Pro-Social and leaving a better society for my kids, grandkids, and great grandkids. Qld's Hoon Hotline is doing a roaring trade here ATM as a group of us have set up a couple of night vision cameras pointing at the street. Admittedly, the venue for casual street racing has moved to a new, local estate but a NIMBY approach has had a positive effect on this community.
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I just love people who tailgate me when I am driving my 3100kg Nissan Patrol with a whopping tow bar on the back. I just set my cruise control to the speed limit whilst I contemplate braking so that my tow bar shows them the reason not to tailgate.
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Pricks that pull into disabled with appropriate sticker - leap out and hurry in a
regular manner towards their destination - obviously either using mum or dad's sticker
or have run a scam for the doctor's benefit.
I once stopped a bloke who had just done that and asked him hadn't he forgotten
something as he hurried past me.
He jingled his keys and said that he thought not - what did i mean?
I replied that "likely you've forgotten your walking stick!"
You wouldn't believe it - he shaped up to me!!!
Didn't worry me for a very good reason, but shows what ar . . .oles there
are in society. An onlooker commentated "good onyer mate, I wish I
had the guts to speak up sometimes".
Hi all going up and down the highway in Tasmania and i like to sit on around the 105 Km speed ( i remember the take 5 to stay alive days ) and it supprises me of the amount od cars, trucks and motor bikes that not only pass me, but doing a lot more than the posted speed limit ( 110 Km ) were is a copper when you need one !!
Pricks that pull into disabled with appropriate sticker - leap out and hurry in a regular manner towards their destination - obviously either using mum or dad's sticker or have run a scam for the doctor's benefit.
I once stopped a bloke who had just done that and asked him hadn't he forgotten something as he hurried past me.
He jingled his keys and said that he thought not - what did i mean?
I replied that "likely you've forgotten your walking stick!"
You wouldn't believe it - he shaped up to me!!!
Didn't worry me for a very good reason, but shows what ar . . .oles there are in society. An onlooker commentated "good onyer mate, I wish I had the guts to speak up sometimes".
All in a days doing . . . .
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Brodie sometimes it's hard to tell what is wrong with some people who are disabled. You don't always need a walking stick etc.
Me for example, I don't need a walking stick to walk but I have been on a disability permit for the past 8 yrs and my wife the same. I can walk as good as the next person but only short distances. I have spinal stenosis and on a good day I feel fine but on a bad day, get out of my way, don't talk to me or I might knock your block off. It's funny how some think that if you don't have a walking stick with a disability then there's nothing wrong with you. I would like someone to front me, they would get told in no uncertain terms where a walking stick would like to be shoved. Also cost a lot of money with back surgeons etc to track down the problem.
Had my say, I'll go and sit the corner now.
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Pricks that pull into disabled with appropriate sticker - leap out and hurry in a regular manner towards their destination - obviously either using mum or dad's sticker or have run a scam for the doctor's benefit.
I once stopped a bloke who had just done that and asked him hadn't he forgotten something as he hurried past me.
He jingled his keys and said that he thought not - what did i mean?
I replied that "likely you've forgotten your walking stick!"
You wouldn't believe it - he shaped up to me!!!
Didn't worry me for a very good reason, but shows what ar . . .oles there are in society. An onlooker commentated "good onyer mate, I wish I had the guts to speak up sometimes".
All in a days doing . . . .
B
Brodie sometimes it's hard to tell what is wrong with some people who are disabled. You don't always need a walking stick etc.
Me for example, I don't need a walking stick to walk but I have been on a disability permit for the past 8 yrs and my wife the same. I can walk as good as the next person but only short distances. I have spinal stenosis and on a good day I feel fine but on a bad day, get out of my way, don't talk to me or I might knock your block off. It's funny how some think that if you don't have a walking stick with a disability then there's nothing wrong with you. I would like someone to front me, they would get told in no uncertain terms where a walking stick would like to be shoved. Also cost a lot of money with back surgeons etc to track down the problem.
Had my say, I'll go and sit the corner now.
I have a disabled permit. I can walk from my car and into say Kmart, walk around for 30 minutes and limp back with my arthritis in my knees killing me. Other days no effect at all. Hence when I had that woman throw her butt out then parked into the disabled bay I had not parked there as I had no need, I was waiting for my wife. Hence most disabled people are law abiding but are annoyed when abled people park there. On A current affaiur one young woman got angry when a driver left a nasty note "you dont look disabled to me" in fact she wasnt, her car had a sticker but she entered the shopping centre to pick up her disabled grandmother in a wheelchair. So many people dont see the many circumstances. Thankyou for your responses.
As for MEIN "Did you ever know that you're my hero
And everything I would like to be?
I dont get it and dont care either.
Tony
-- Edited by Eaglemax on Tuesday 12th of December 2023 04:04:49 PM
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As for MEIN "Did you ever know that you're my hero
And everything I would like to be?
I dont get it and dont care either.
Tony
-- Edited by Eaglemax on Tuesday 12th of December 2023 04:04:49 PM
It's from a song, "Wind beneath my wings" by Bette Midler. Talks about flying as high as an eagle, maybe referring to your username?
As for assumptions about people in handicapped bays, I agree with others who have pointed out that not all mobility restrictions are obvious to others. I don't have a permit, if I can't get a bay within a reasonable distance, I just don't bother. I can imagine observers thinking there's nothing wrong with me, but there is. And, of course, as mentioned, carers can use the handicapped bays to collect somebody who is impaired. Don't judge.
From Wikipedia,
"Wind Beneath My Wings" (sometimes titled "The Wind Beneath My Wings" and "Hero") is a song written in 1982 by Jeff Silbar and Larry Henley.
The song was first recorded by Kamahl in 1982 for a country and western album he was recording. Kamahl talked about being the first to record the song in an appearance on Australian TV show Spicks and Specks, but stated it was not commercially released because it was felt he did not suit the country and western style. Instead, Roger Whittaker recorded the song, as well as Sheena Easton and Lee Greenwood. The song appeared shortly thereafter in charted versions by Colleen Hewett (1982), Lou Rawls (1983), Gladys Knight & the Pips (1983), and Gary Morris (1983).
The highest-charting version of the song to date was recorded in 1988 by singer and actress Bette Midler for the soundtrack to the film Beaches.
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The Parking Permit - Blue Card ; Is a permit issued to those who are "Mobility Impaired" - Not necessarily "Disabled".
The criteria required to assess for a permit is that the applicant is unable to walk 100 meters.
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From Wikipedia, "Wind Beneath My Wings" (sometimes titled "The Wind Beneath My Wings" and "Hero") is a song written in 1982 by Jeff Silbar and Larry Henley.
The song was first recorded by Kamahl in 1982 for a country and western album he was recording. Kamahl talked about being the first to record the song in an appearance on Australian TV show Spicks and Specks, but stated it was not commercially released because it was felt he did not suit the country and western style. Instead, Roger Whittaker recorded the song, as well as Sheena Easton and Lee Greenwood. The song appeared shortly thereafter in charted versions by Colleen Hewett (1982), Lou Rawls (1983), Gladys Knight & the Pips (1983), and Gary Morris (1983).
The highest-charting version of the song to date was recorded in 1988 by singer and actress Bette Midler for the soundtrack to the film Beaches. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
The Parking Permit - Blue Card ; Is a permit issued to those who are "Mobility Impaired" - Not necessarily "Disabled".
The criteria required to assess for a permit is that the applicant is unable to walk 100 meters.
But its called.-
Australian Disability Parking (ADP) Permits for individuals
extracted from - https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safety-and-road-rules/road-rules/disability-parking
Dont see the benefit of playing on words. In USA they still use the word "Handicapped". But Australia still uses the word Disabled. If a state uses "Mobility" then so be it.
The wording is - "have a permanent or temporary loss of use of one or both legs. have another permanent medical or physical condition that means your physical condition is detrimentally affected as a result of walking 100 metres. require the use of crutches, a walking frame, callipers, scooter, wheelchair or other similar mobility aid.".
It includes "Temporary" meaning when I have a flare up of arthritis and need a cane....
Tony
-- Edited by Eaglemax on Wednesday 13th of December 2023 06:02:42 PM
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The judgementalism of others on display in this thread is disappointing to read, but it is at some level understandable.
Although I have no need for a parking permit, the last 6 months have opened my eyes to the often 'invisible' nature of disabilities.
In my case a form of auto immune Peripheral arthritis & Enthesitis has been a rollercoaster ride with the symptoms literally changing from day to day. (What hurts today?) On some days the act of getting out of a chair or walking across the room has been close to impossible because of the pain, many times I have needed help with the basics like dressing & washing, but a day or two later I have been out climbing a ladder or cutting timber with a chainsaw (for example). Overall there has been a gradual improvement to the point that I am now pain free most of the time. But it is unpredictable. We know it is auto immune (related to my Crohns disease) but neither rheumatologist nor gastrenterologist can say what triggered the 6 month presentation, nor predict whether it has been a 'one off' or something I can expect to make return visits in the future.
Recently a friend disclosed to me he had Peripheral Neuropathy - similar in presentation to what I have experienced in the sense that he can suffer debilitating pain one day but not the next.
We both do what we can when we can. We both intend to continue to travel but recognise there will be times where we just have to stay put until able to drive again.
My point is that I suspect that there are many medical conditions that most of us are completely unaware of until we, or someone we know, has them - many of which could well 'invite' unwarranted judgementalism when the disabling symptoms are often not 'on show'.
-- Edited by Cuppa on Wednesday 13th of December 2023 07:22:05 PM
