RAM 1500 Recall

Possum3 · Guru

RAM 1500 Recall

yobarr · Guru

Possum3 wrote:
Ram is recalling its newly introduced 1500 Big Horn due to a problem with the front seats.
Due to a manufacturing defect, the locking bracket installed to secure the centre front seat in the down position may not operate as intended, the company says in its recall notice.
This seating position is not fitted with a seatbelt and could be used by an occupant if the locking bracket does not function correctly.
In the event of a collision, an unrestrained occupant would be exposed to the risk of serious injury or death.
A total of 243 vehicles are affected from 2023
The VIN list is attached here
The original recall notice is attached here
If you own an affected vehicle, youll need to contact a Ram dealership to have the centre seat inspected and rectified, free of charge.
Ram Trucks Australia advises the centre front seat shouldnt be used by passengers.
If you have any further questions, you can contact the company on 1300 681 655.

Buggar! For a minute I wondered if they were to be recalled so that they could be fitted with a rear axle that has a decent carrying capacity. But No. Smoke and Mirrors wins again, perhaps? Cheers

peter67 · Guru

Be safer to upgrade to a bullet proof trough urinal, sorry, tesla truck, Elon says they float too with a door seal upgrade :)

yobarr · Guru

peter67 wrote:
Be safer to upgrade to a bullet proof trough urinal, sorry, tesla truck, Elon says they float too with a door seal upgrade :)

The Old Krautwagen (VW Beetle) also was able to float, I believe. Did once see one in a video drifting down a ruver, but not sure if had been modified to help with floatation. Cheers

BarneyBDB · Senior Member

If the seat is not to be used by passengers, is it really a seat?

yobarr · Guru

BarneyBDB wrote:
If the seat is not to be used by passengers, is it really a seat?

Just another example of too many people with nothing better to do than invent "problems" that don't really exist.

Reminds me of problem faced by LC200 owners if they remove the last row of seats.

Bureaucracy gone mad. Cheers

P.S Anybody remember 2 lads and 2 chicks across the front bench seat of 1979 F100 4wd? Not enough seatbelts!

We travelled many miles on dirt roads, and nobody died! Horror.

-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 27th of December 2023 09:38:38 PM

BarneyBDB · Senior Member

I owned many vehicles that did not have seatbelts, then they started to become an optional extra before becoming mandatory along with all the other expensive safety devices. Do I feel any safer in my 2021 Isuzu than anything before? No, I just assume everyone else on the road is out to kill me and adjust my driving to suit.

dorian · Guru

The reason that seatbelts are mandatory is to protect idiots from their own stupidity. Preferably they should exit the gene pool via their windscreens, but the downside is that survivors would only burden the hospital system.

That said, this is just stupid:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/dec/28/queensland-government-ai-traffic-fine-system-legal-challenge

Fair enough, AI makes mistakes, but where was the human oversight?

Possum3 · Guru

dorian wrote:

Fair enough, AI makes mistakes, but where was the human oversight?

This is always a problem when zealots in revenue raising are lazy/inept public servants - after all, it is not them that are being incorrectly charged/fined. Nary a thought given by them to the anxiety and stress caused by their lack of due diligence.

yobarr · Guru

Possum3 wrote:
dorian wrote:

Fair enough, AI makes mistakes, but where was the human oversight?

This is always a problem when zealots in revenue raising are lazy/inept public servants - after all, it is not them that are being incorrectly charged/fined. Nary a thought given by them to the anxiety and stress caused by their lack of due diligence.

From my experience, in many cases they're too dumb to get a real job. Cheers

Bulldozer · Senior Member

Back in the old days we never worried about anything. In 1973 Four of us drove from Sydney to the gold coast in a Datsun 1000 ute, taking turns for two of us to sit in the tray.

yobarr · Guru

Bulldozer wrote:
Back in the old days we never worried about anything. In 1973 Four of us drove from Sydney to the gold coast in a Datsun 1000 ute, taking turns for two of us to sit in the tray.

That brings back memories! About 1980 we had the F100 in Perth, complete with a sofa on the back, and regularly drove around with 4 in the front, and 3 guys on the back, all drinking up large! Not a worry in the world! Cheers

peter67 · Guru

yobarr wrote:
Possum3 wrote:
Ram is recalling its newly introduced 1500 Big Horn due to a problem with the front seats.
Due to a manufacturing defect, the locking bracket installed to secure the centre front seat in the down position may not operate as intended, the company says in its recall notice.
This seating position is not fitted with a seatbelt and could be used by an occupant if the locking bracket does not function correctly.
In the event of a collision, an unrestrained occupant would be exposed to the risk of serious injury or death.
A total of 243 vehicles are affected from 2023
The VIN list is attached here
The original recall notice is attached here
If you own an affected vehicle, youll need to contact a Ram dealership to have the centre seat inspected and rectified, free of charge.
Ram Trucks Australia advises the centre front seat shouldnt be used by passengers.
If you have any further questions, you can contact the company on 1300 681 655.
Buggar! For a minute I wondered if they were to be recalled so that they could be fitted with a rear axle that has a decent carrying capacity. But No. Smoke and Mirrors wins again, perhaps? Cheers

And the Ram is lighter than the LC200 cruisers despite being bigger in size, formidable in fact if you are next to one in traffic. My pet hate with 4x4's in the city is their lack of steering lock and most peoples unwillingness to park them squarely in parking bays making the bay on either side next to useless, and I'm talking Hilux size 4x4's.

If by some miracle you ever find a Ram/Silverado etc parked squarely in the average size bay it leaves about 4" either side of the truck to the white line, they may as well park on the bay centreline and take two bays. Great out in the bush but...a pox on them all in town.

ps, I hope they recall them all and crush them all, with the owners in situ.

-- Edited by peter67 on Friday 29th of December 2023 08:01:57 PM

jegog · Senior Member

Possum3 wrote:
dorian wrote:

Fair enough, AI makes mistakes, but where was the human oversight?

This is always a problem when zealots in revenue raising are lazy/inept public servants - after all, it is not them that are being incorrectly charged/fined. Nary a thought given by them to the anxiety and stress caused by their lack of due diligence.

Had anybody made an attempt to fact check before offering an incorrect opinion then the eating of humble pie would have been unnecessary. According to the Queensland government

How the cameras work

The cameras take multiple images of every vehicle passing the camera. This includes capturing the registration number plate as well as images of the front seats of the vehicle.

Using artificial intelligence software

The cameras use artificial intelligence (AI) software to filter images and detect possible mobile phone use by the driver, or failure to wear a seatbelt by the driver and front seat passenger.

If no possible offence is detected, AI automatically excludes the images from any further analysis and the images are deleted.

If AI suspects a possible offence, the image is passed on to Queensland Revenue Office. An authorised officer will review the image to determine if an offence has been committed.

As for the Guardian article, well the photos are photos of photos, not the original captured digital evidence which will be presented to the court by the prosecutor.

It seems like The Guardian adheres to the never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Those windscreen rego stickers we used to use could have come in handy in cases like this.