the problem was not setting the gear up, I downloaded a program called gorbtrack and that sorted out the sat position wherever you are, the trouble came when I was trying to activate imparja and 7 central, the form work that returned in the mail, after I faxed off the required paperwork was to say the least absolutely horrendous, I refired another email to imparja and this time I "think" I have the program, I will retry , and retry again, but initial setup of this system was a bit tricky, particularly when the onscreen instructions were in spanish

-- Edited by dave06 at 21:26, 2008-06-18

the problem is not setting it up ( except initially I.E. when I first bought the system, the onscreen menu, which guides one through the setup process was in some foriegn language) after wading through all the documents and pressing every button on the remote and jumping up and down and threatening to throw it in the creek a few times, I finally got the language changed, the next step was to find the sat, then I had all the settings wrong. but anyway thats a diferent story, to set it up now takes about 10 minutes and one has a picture, abc or sbs or something similar to get the decent ones I.E. imparja or seven central, one has to fax or ring and get authorisation for them and prove that one is in the outback or they wont let one play with them, I did all that was required and they sent me back an authorisation formwork that would choke a dingo to retransmit the aforementioned stations, I then emailed the stations direct ( one cant just ring, one must go on queue then they may or may not ring back, then the little girl on the end of the line ( barely twelve by the sound of her, isnt proficient in your exact problem, to solve it one must contact ones distributer) I got an answer back through email, god bless it, that made me basically swear that I was going to be where I stated that I was going to be, god forbid we should get decent telly when we arent entitled to it, then who would pay the station owners,I havent as yet retried to get a signal because basically after 4 days of buggerising around I am sick and tired of "fiddling" with it, and really couldnt give a toss if I see an advert for pert or whatever else they are trying to sell today, the fire doesnt give me half as much grief and the whisky and coke makes it so I couldnt care a damn about politics or whos murdering who back home. beer o'clock just comes a little earlier. anyway to all you fellers that have a good working sat system, good on ya, me the fires just fine, and besides I get to talk to my wife again (god help Me)