well I had to go back through a few vehicle logs for that one, back to the days of my nissan patrol, the kennedy development road, I wrote " impassable when wet, generally in good condition, watch spoon drains, averaged 65kph, 220 kms long, 3.5hrs, good trip" however I asked a mate who is up that way and he said that it has been sealed all the way from winton to hughenden, should be fine for a van with reasonable caution, so hope that helps, and thanks for the kind words. I am only one amongst many here that are only too glad to help. marg say g'day to terry for me and tell him we apreciate his years as a fire fighter, people in these positions do not get the thanks that is so often owing to them, I was a volunteer firey at the ash wednesday bushfire that came through the southeast to the adelaide hills and I dont mind telling you it was those days and nights that I most feared for my life, concrete burning, fireballs as big as houses flying 25 feet overhead, fire burning at treetop level I will never forget the noise they made, I wouldnt like to fight in a confined space, we had to let a lot of houses go over that period, I cried for days a lot of big hairy men did and still do I dont mind telling you and everyone else, the people who's houses we could not save lost everything, some uninsured I still get upset by it now, phsyc's associate it with those coming home from battle, but I wouldnt dare  compare it to that, but after years of it then it certainly could be I guess, anyway a big thanks, for what it is worth, from me

-- Edited by dave06 at 13:23, 2008-09-01