IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THE NAPPYSAN USERS

Basil Faulty · Guru

IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THE NAPPYSAN USERS

Disco Duck · Guru

Is that just protecting their own sales Basil? Just seems strange that oxygen would affect plastic. Maybe they aren't selling too many chemicals?

It would be interesting to try to get some independant data on that. I wouldn't know where to look for something like that.

I'll scout the net??

Basil Faulty · Guru

Disco Duck wrote:

Is that just protecting their own sales Basil? Just seems strange that oxygen would affect plastic. Maybe they aren't selling too many chemicals?

It would be interesting to try to get some independant data on that. I wouldn't know where to look for something like that.

I'll scout the net??

Some plastic especially the hard injection molded ones do decay in sunlight so anything is possible I guess I just did not want to run the risk of one of you buggers picking up a full cassette and having it shatter and then ask me what to use to get the resultant mess out of your clothes and from between your toes....

Disco Duck · Guru

I wasn't arguing with your reason Bas.............hehehehe.......... and I do thank you and appreciate your concern. My clothes thank you.................my toes thank you...............my nose thanks you. I was merely curious as to wether this was a sales ploy or otherwise.

It's a bit like Epson printers. Epson tell you that generic inks won't work in their printers and if you use them they will block the jets and your warranty is dead!! I have heard some say that they use generic inks all the time with no problems................Me??.......I don't take the chance. Epson inks all the time. I'm probably paying way too much

Cheers

Disco

Rolly · Guru

What they haven't told you, Basil, is that the mechanical deterioration will take place faster than the crystalline.

You'll be dead and gone long before dilute solutions of the nappy soakers such as are used in laundry and the "off prescription" portable potty method, have taken effect on your personal pooper.

It looks much like another warrantee "out" and an excuse to sell more of their own toxic chemicals.

twobob · Guru

Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) is a naturally occuring product.

It is formed when water (H2O) passes the ozone layer (O3). The problem in todays society is there is not enough of it, due to the atmosphere around catchments.

Because we store water, we loose it from the water. Why do gardens do better under rain than the tap water. Answer = H2O2

Its a very useful health aid (see oxygen therapy for cancer) AND it can colour your hair (its a bleach). Wipe the serving area and presto, clean.

While I am unsure of the effects on plastics, I have my doubt that it does have any, but obviously there is a strength limit. In fact, I have it at 5% in a plastic bottle for syringing my ears. I originally thought Basil was correct for toilet use, as it introduces much needed O2 for the bugs to break down the material faster, with little smell.

Maybe, as DD says, just trying to sell more of their products.

-- Edited by twobob on Friday 6th of November 2009 08:42:11 PM

Cruising Granny · Guru

I think Thetford may be having a panic attack as we all find alternative toilet chemicals.
I used Theford chems for a little while, and the plastic outlet began to flake bits of plastic off and was becoming brittle.
I have since used the borax, cloudy ammonia, disenfectant brew with no further plastic flakes. It costs me about $5 to make up 5 litres which last me more than a month, emptying the cassette weekly.
I don't have any solids in my cassette, but all the same I don't want bad smells and other chemical reactions in an enclosed space.
As my bathroom is next to the kitchen at the back of the van I most certainly don't want any spillage, as the dividing wall is not sealed at floor level, so I found out when I hosed the toilet area out once.
Today I found out why Coles no longer stocks Borax. It's considered to be a hardware item and more likely to be found at Bunnings, despite the fact I've been buying it from Coles for months. Go figure.

Basil Faulty · Guru

twobob wrote:

In fact, I have it at 5% in a plastic bottle for syringing my ears.

What did you say?? Hey what speak up man I can't hear you....

Disco Duck · Guru

Onya Bas.

Poor bugger is probably out there now mixing up another 10 litre bottle full for you. LOL

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

The cassettes of Thetford toilets are injection moulded from Polyethylene or Polypropylene.
These is possibly the most chemical resistant of all common plastics.
Guess what the container that the Sodium Percarbonate is packed in is made from.........
......that's right.....Polyethylene.....see underneath the container in the triangle there is a #2, that is what that means...

Cheers,
Peter

EDIT: I added polypropylene to the possible plastics used for the cassette. It is impossible to tell the difference easily, but the conclusion is the same.....

-- Edited by Peter_n_Margaret on Sunday 8th of November 2009 03:23:12 PM

Rolly · Guru

On another forum someone mentioned that he had shown the e-mail to some plastics engineer mates of his.

The reply came in fits of laughter.

dave06 · Guru

so is that a yes to use it or a no to not use it.?????

JRH · Guru

dave06 wrote:

so is that a yes to use it or a no to not use it.?????

Still using the Home Brand Nappisan which contains Sodium Perborate.

Sodium Perborate is the main ingredient in Odour Be Gone tablets specifically formulated for Porta Potti's.

I am no engineer but I honestly cannot see the oxygen created by Sodium Perborate causing any problems to the plastic holding tank.

Rolly · Guru

dave06 wrote:

so is that a yes to use it or a no to not use it.?????

Dave, there's been a lot of discussion on several other forums, with some of the posters claiming to have used it for over 10 years and being most happy with it.

There is no evidence that it hurts septic tanks like the proprietary chemicals sometimes do.

Actually using the stuff to wash nappies every day puts a lot more of it into the septic than emptying a cassette toilet every few days.

Cheap, harmless and very effective, seems to sum up the general opinion.

dave06 · Guru

IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THE NAPPY SAN USERS