New Ford Ranger

ken thomas · Guru

New Ford Ranger

Ma · Guru

Congrats Ken. If you are half as happy with yours as we are with ours then you are on a winner.

ken thomas · Guru

thanks Ma
What year is your ranger?? and how does it tow up hills ? I have a 20'6" Champion full size ATM 2560kg and the prado struggles a bit
Ken

Happywanderer · The Master

Another car salesman who needs a good kick up the backside. Shouldn't they be reducing it because you are trading in a good vehicle, not increasing the price of the new one. Mongrels.

Ma · Guru

2008 model 3lts turbo 5 speed manual towing 21ft full Jurgen ensuite van just under 2 tonne.

Sails up the hills. We sit around 90 - 95 and fuel economy is 9.5 solo and 16 towing.

Couldn't be happier.

We had a canopy put on ours as you can see in my avatar. Surprising what you can stow away in the back and the good thing is that any spare fuel for the truck or the genny is not in the cab with you.

ken thomas · Guru

They gang tackle you and bamboozle with figures and before long mistakes are made.
unfortunately the salesman are very smooth talkers and also liars.
have spoken to another ford dealer and he told me the franchisers can charge what they like and sometimes get away with it
Bad salesman and dealers will get theirs by word of mouth
Ken

Dougwe · Chief one feather

Great choice Ken, my next car. I'm still looking on the side of the road for him too but no luck so far. If I ever find him I'll give him the kiss of life (so to speak).

ken thomas · Guru

The ranger and BT50 are in a class of their own with the new models and only the outer cosmetic details are different, some small variances internally but both seem excellent. BT 50 is quite a lot cheaper and should be considered
Doug if you do find him /her revive them please

Gerty Dancer · Guru

Regardless of the A-hole who sold it to you, you have a great vehicle there... enjoy Ken.

Edit... I'm surprised that got past the censor!

-- Edited by Gerty Dancer on Tuesday 8th of November 2011 06:51:13 PM

bill12 · Guru

I class car salesmen on par with politicians, real estate sales , and the big banks. All they want is your money, and will lie , coerse, and look you straight in the face while doing it. I have decided to go the other way , and put an older camper on my old Hilux diesel.A lot of stuffing about, but its saving me a bundle.If I had more money I might go for a BT50, also. Lovely car.Bill

-- Edited by bill12 on Tuesday 8th of November 2011 07:36:31 PM

deb-gary · Senior Member

guys dont be hard on all salespeople,although there arent many of us honest ones left. seriously i am a licenced motor dealer in qld waiting to sell my house and join the nomad trail, if anyone wants any advice with vehicle purchases drop me a line im only too happy to help(garyfitz07@hotmail.com) and any advice is free of charge!!

milo · Guru

bill12 wrote:
put an older camper on my old Hilux diesel.A lot of stuffing about, but its saving me a bundle.If I had more money I might go for a BT50, also. Lovely car.Bill

-- Edited by bill12 on Tuesday 8th of November 2011 07:36:31 PM

I've seen a few set ups like this , dont know how they do it..

jimricho · Guru

Last time I traded a vehicle I "wheeled and dealed" on the basis of a changeover price. I also asked for the extras (bull bar, towbar, cargo barrier etc) to be included in the changeover price as they can really do a job on you if you don't. They have a lot of "slack" in the price they charge for options.

-- Edited by jimricho on Tuesday 8th of November 2011 09:18:00 PM

whiteman · Senior Member

Wish I could find a dual cab 3l TD Ute to legally pull my Evernew, the big cruiser does a great job, but eventually age does weary them all & a newie in auto form would be great...........oohhhh should mention that van is a 22 fter with tare at 2500kgs and ATM 3410kgs, so might be a problem me thinks.

-- Edited by whiteman on Tuesday 8th of November 2011 09:41:04 PM

Andrea · Senior Member

Whiteman, don't write off the BT-50 for your van! We have a 2008 BT-50 Freestyle 4x4 manual (5500 kg GCM) hauling our Southern Cross 5th wheeler (3450 kg ATM) - 66,000 km so far and hasn't missed a beat, we love it. With the van hitched we get about 17L per 100 km. And the newer BT-50 (and Ranger) is even better.

Andrea

johnq · Guru

Ken
What fuel and 2X4 or 4X4?
Maybe you could post some fuel economy numbers a little later thanks.

ken thomas · Guru

I have gone with a 4x2 3.2lt t/diesel with a towing capacity of 3350kg

I have only used the 4wd in the prado once and since I do not really go offroad the $8000 extra for 4x4 is better in my pocket

Not sure when it will be available as none in Aust and with the floods in Thialand who knows

Ken

johnq · Guru

Thanks Ken. Congratulations and hope it arrives soon.

The escalating cost of fuel is going to be an issue for many though.

Maybe there could be somewhere on the site to log fuel use for different rigs and approximate weights. It wouldn't be scientific of course but it would be some guide. With logs on 4X4 sites people accept that fuel use can vary according to the driver, environment and load and the numbers are interesting as more data confirms fuel economy expectations.

-- Edited by johnq on Wednesday 9th of November 2011 12:59:17 PM

ken thomas · Guru

Could be done using a spreadsheet and I would think somebody has already done it
need to do a search on various forums and then compare

Fuel is still a part cost in the big scheme of things and on our trip last year over 22000 kms it was approx $3700 and average was 16.6kms/100lts
Ken

-- Edited by ken thomas on Wednesday 9th of November 2011 01:18:35 PM

ozjohn · Guru

Whiteman.
With a 2500Kg TARE and an 3410Kg ATM (Very strange figure) you a personal allowable payload of 910Kg.
Do you actually use all that payload?
It's the loaded mass of the van (Not exceeding the ATM) that is the important mass (Weight).

Cheers, Ozjohn.

johnq · Guru

ken thomas wrote:
Could be done using a spreadsheet and I would think somebody has already done it
need to do a search on various forums and then compare
Fuel is still a part cost in the big scheme of things and on our trip last year over 22000 kms it was approx $3700 and average was 16.6kms/100lts
Ken
-- Edited by ken thomas on Wednesday 9th of November 2011 01:18:35 PM

That was fair economy if it was for the towing component.

whiteman · Senior Member

John....figures are correct if the boys at Evernew have got them right when doing the VIN plate and no to the last question. Only ever filled all 3 tanks once to see the effect, generally run with 1 tank full or 2 at 50% when in tow otherwise use CP water or if bush camping will fill all 3 for a brief period.