Crocodiles not all dangerous?

Gerty Dancer · Guru

Crocodiles not all dangerous?

Gerty Dancer · Guru

I refer to the front page story about crocodile numbers increasing in Nth Qld, and their threat to communities.

Here is a quote from Environment Minister Andrew Powell... "We will trap and remove any crocodiles which are found to be dangerous "

My question is, arent they all dangerous? Are they going to wait till a croc hurts/kills somebody before dealing with it?

Dreamcaster51 · Senior Member

Yep, let's kill them all, then start with the snakes, spiders etc oh! and while we're at it lets start on the sharks, sting rays, stone fish, etcccccccccccccccccc.
Simple, stay out of THEIR area, or if you must just don't be repetitive in where you get water, wash fish etc. simple really GD. the crocs really do have a place in nature same as everything else. The planet will be much better off when the biggest defiler of nature finally fades out, yep right again, it's humans.
Nope not a big greenie either, but one that has worked with these animals for years and seen people do stupid things, like hanging their towels over the signs warnig of crocodiles in area.

bill12 · Guru

I live in the Townsville area and there are definately more crocs about. 35 odd years I have been here, and there are more about and seen. They used to shoot them, but now they are protected, and more bold.They are seeing them in places where they have never been encountered.DON,T swim anywhere you might see a croc. Bill

Dreamcaster51 · Senior Member

Where was this talked about. I spent 15 yrs in Cairns working and I have only heard of one small croc on the road. Next to Salt creek, taxi drove over it as he thought it might cause problems.
If you look at the dept of natural resources web site, they do a count of the animals every two years or so. In 2011 they counted between Mary river in the south of Q'ld to Cooktown in the mid north. You will probably be surprised to hear they counted some 293 animals, of these only three were believed to be around the four mtr mark. Further north of Cooktown around Lakefield national park you will of course find a lot more. They have made a good recovery since nearly being extinct in 1974, yep that's right. They were protected in WA and NT at the end of the 1960's, Q'ld followed suit screaming and kicking in 1974.
Sorry Gerty but a pet subject of mine and the amount of misinformation around is more prolific that the crocs them selves. If you want any more info you can PM me

woolman · Guru

I don't believe that anyone is talking about eradicating crocs but rather culling to a sustainable number. I am told by those involved that the cane toad (introduced by white man) has reduced the number of lizards that are natural creditors of croc eggs. End result is more crocs are surviving from the eggs. We need to carefully keep things in balance to correct previous mistakes by our predesors. Cant change what has already been done.

Neil

Happywanderer · The Master

Dreamcaster51 wrote:
Where was this talked about. I spent 15 yrs in Cairns working and I have only heard of one small croc on the road. Next to Salt creek, taxi drove over it as he thought it might cause problems.

On the front page of the Grey Nomads page Dreamcaster.

I don't think Gerty Dancer mentioned killing all crocs, not that I could see anyway. She just said that all are dangerous in the wrong place, not just some.

Sheba · Guru

Gotta agree with you Dreamcaster. I won't get started on stupid People, or I'll never get off the subject. Love my Crocs. Miss seeing them in the wild. Been to the Croc. Farm here once only. Can't handle seeing them like that.

Cheers,

Sheba.

Sheba · Guru

Gerty Dancer wrote:

My question is, arent they all dangerous? Are they going to wait till a croc hurts/kills somebody before dealing with it?

Electricity is dangerous too Gerty, but you have to do something pretty stupid for it to kill you. Same with Crocs.

Cheers,

Sheba.

gold dandelion · Senior Member

dont you all know that Crocs don't kill human beings. they only kill idiots

Wizardofoz · Guru

Gee whiz, don't pose a simple question on here otherwise be prepared to be shot down in flames. For starters Gert Dancer didn't say anything about 'killing' crocodiles or anything else for that matter, and unless a crocodile attacks a human, we don't interfere with them unless they appear in our habitat, then they are usually moved to either a farm or elsewhere.

The jumping attack dogs should now be put back in their kennels or back on the leash!!!

-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Wednesday 12th of September 2012 11:49:29 AM

Sheba · Guru

Well I trust that you SHEBA live in a major city south of QLD and have never invaded anybodys territory, you don't have a caravan or motorhome either and definitely never venture to North QLD. Ofcourse I am right aren't I??? Mind you, the indigenous amongst us might question your reasoning.

Don't know where you're coming from Ray, but you couldn't be more wrong. Only ever lived in cities when I had to. Can't stand them.

Actually, I lived about 120 K's south of the Tip in the mid-80's [ and wish I was still there] Wizardofoz. Much prefer to live with the Crocs. than most people in reality. I do have a Campervan, and will be travelling again, just as soon as I can get properly organised.

At the moment, I live between Rockhampton and Emu Park, in Qld, on small acreage.

As for the Indigenous Peoples of this country, I don't understand what you mean? We certainly invaded their country.

Cheers,

Sheba.

-- Edited by Sheba on Wednesday 12th of September 2012 10:20:30 PM

Duh · Guru

Nobody has mentioned fresh water crocs (Johnson) about whether they are dangerous.

Wildlife officers have told me that generally they will not attack humans (for instance they live in the water of Tunnel Creek that people wade through) however they will take anything small, so if you dangle your hand in the water while in a boat, they could think it is a fish and goodbye hand or fingers.

See this link; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freshwater_crocodile

I assume this post is only about Salt Water Crocs, although nobody has said so that I can see.

Here is a link on some recorded Salt Water Croc deaths;

http://ozmagic.homestead.com/australiancrocodileattacks.html

Indigenous People????........I think this bloke has a point!

-- Edited by Duh on Wednesday 12th of September 2012 10:35:18 PM

Sheba · Guru

Wizardofoz wrote:
unless they appear in our habitat

Don't forget that "we" have invaded "their" habitat in the first place.
Cheers,
Sheba.

Gerty Dancer · Guru

My thought was simply this... crocs were reported wandering in areas of Townsville... it didnt say in the streets but it was implied that they were actually within town limits and areas had to be closed off. Fair enough. If a crocodile had to be "found to be dangerous" before being relocated, what does that mean?
And no I'm not in favour of wholesale culling of crocs!

Cruising Granny · Guru

There are more crocs since the shooting stopped, and so they have to go further to find their own territory.
While I was in Cairns for more than 2 years, up to 2010 one croc was found in the drain/creek which runs into Trinity Inlet, under Mulgrave Road.
Just don't swim in croc country. Simple.

Wizardofoz · Guru

Sheba wrote:
Wizardofoz wrote:
unless they appear in our habitat

Don't forget that "we" have invaded "their" habitat in the first place.
Cheers,
Sheba.

Well I trust that you SHEBA live in a major city south of QLD and have never invaded anybodys territory, you don't have a caravan or motorhome either and definitely never venture to North QLD. Ofcourse I am right aren't I??? Mind you, the indigenous amongst us might question your reasoning.

Sheba · Guru

Duh wrote:
Indigenous People????........I think this bloke has a point!
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Good one Vic.
Cheers,
Sheba.

-- Edited by Duh on Wednesday 12th of September 2012 10:35:18 PM

Duh · Guru

Someone sent me that by email but I think I recall Billeeeeee posting the pic too a little while back! biggrin