Or you can simply list with the Do Not Call Register https://www.donotcall.gov.au/

Simple process, we registered years ago and seldom get unwanted calls.

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Or you can simply list with the Do Not Call Register https://www.donotcall.gov.au/

Simple process, we registered years ago and seldom get unwanted calls.

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 Unfortunately scammers don't check the DNC register before trying to relieve you of your hard earned cash.

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Santa wrote:

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Or you can simply list with the Do Not Call Register https://www.donotcall.gov.au/

Simple process, we registered years ago and seldom get unwanted calls.

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 Unfortunately scammers don't check the DNC register before trying to relieve you of your hard earned cash.

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As I said we seldom get unwanted calls, scammers or other, same as I don't get spam emails, I would suggest people who are inundated with either would do well to review their security and browsing habits.

I suspect a lot of people create problems for themselves by being too free with personal information, as well as using freeware loaded with tracking cookies and malware.

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You should be aware though that to get around the do not call register these companies were using overseas call centres

the Australian DNCR does not apply to them

We have been on the DNCR since it was started and renewed our registration twice since.

so now we will see what happens

frank

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Evening Frank, there must be a reason why some people like yourself are "inundated" with these unwanted calls and others are seldom bothered, we may get 1 call a month, perhaps less, as soon as they start their spiel I hang up without saying a word.

G'day Santa

I don't have an answer. we are careful with private info and never give donations or details over the phone.

a couple of the calls we had were cold calls and I just say no thanks as soon as they start and then hang up

others had some details like our name and address but that is in the phone book.

lots of calls where there is nobody there and then a hangup which worried me that someone was testing to see if we were home.

see how we go with what has been done and modify the plan from there.

appreciate your comments
thanks
frank

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 Hmmm, for spam emails I agree but the OP was talking about "Unwelcome Phone Calls"

The person at the other end can get all the details they need from the phone book but the real scammers are more sophisticated.   They will use computer software to sequentially dial numbers using eg: a WA or Victorian etc area code then the computer will try to ring all possible combination of numbers in a flash.  If someone answers a phone the computer knows it has hit a real number so transfers the call to a person, hence the delay you experience when answering sometimes.

If you get a delay when you answer that is the time to hang up.

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I hear what you say Neil, however given that KFT and myself are both on the DNC registrar, and both listed in the directory, why is it that he receives more than his fair share of unwanted calls while others like myself are seldom bothered?

Not saying I want my situation to change, would simply like to know the reason.

Dorian you may be able to do that these days

talk to Telstra and see how you go

and let us know how you get on please

frank

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 I believe you live in your van, it sounds like Frank lives at home, it could simply be his number is in the phone book and yours not?

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 We live in Moonta SA, sadly only manage to hit the road a couple of times a year, like Frank we have a number listed in the white pages.

I always check the window on the phone,if it is o/seas normally do not reply to it,sometimes when I do I ask where are you ringing from,
they will usually say Melbourne,Ithen ask why does o/seas come up,most times ph goes click.
i have also told them to hang on and go back 5 minutes later.
I know of one guy who said they were glad they called as they are implicated in a murder.

we don't have caller ID so was impossible to be sure where the calls were originating.

been 3 weeks now and not one call from a marketing call centre or scammers.

I like it like that.

frank

I have a silent number or maybe it's just called an unlisted number now, so maybe this is the reason I don't get many calls. Last week I had two. One was Red Cross, I forget the other. I just hang up. Today I received a call and when I answered it was a pre-recorded Clive Palmer message I've seen on TV recently.

One way I get rid of callers who say they are from Centrelink, my Bank or Insurer, they usually say they must check my ID and would I give them my date of birth and residential address. I say no, how do I know you are from Centrelink, Bank or Insurer or whoever. You could be anyone trying to steal my identity or rob my home ! After they try to convince me they are genuine callers and I still don't give the information, they nicely say goodbye and hang up. 

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Make no mistake, the DNC is a political rort ... created to satisfy the consumer From a political perspective but what it does do is creates a black market for VALID phone numbers.  cheers - Weg.

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 Wonder if you would like to tell us a little more about this theory?

Hello Santa, apologies for the delayed response.

the DNC Register was created from consumer back lash to customers getting unsolicited phone calls as we know, but as Telstra was no longer run by the government and was a publicly listed company with shareholders etc, they were reluctant to create and manage as they get paid per phone call. 

The reality is this ... phone numbers, like credit cards are numeric so a simple algorithm is applied and these days with computers the code is run along the lines of 000001, 00002, 00003 etc until the code creates a numerical sequence which just happens to be your phone number and all of a sudden your phone rings.  Have you ever noticed a pause between you answering the call and then someone responding? This is the predictive dialler they use to filter hang ups etc from their operators.

now the DNC is an Australian Standard of behaviour which in theory regulates telemarketing industry here in Australia, that is why your caller is usually from the Philippines ... "I'm calling ON BEHALF of ....."

with profitability margins factored in to their business, and time is money, if the calling business can eliminate the chance of an incorrect number from their code / list of potential phone numbers with a list of REAL numbers, they will pay for it ... Hence the black market ... Same principles apply to credit cards and email addresses.

the government know all too well that this is the case so the DNC was created ... Hence the political rort ... A smokescreen to appease our desire to be anonymous ... When no one can actually provide the service we require.

imagine someone in the DNC office getting a hold of the list ... How much would a competitive telemarketing business pay to get this ... 

Sorry for my belated reply, but Telstra have told me that they cannot block calls from private numbers, nor can they block calls from specific countries. If you wish to block international calls, then you will have to block calls from all countries. ISTM that a ratbag's privacy is more important than my own.