satellite internet

liz795 · Veteran Member

satellite internet

Hey Jim · Guru

We too would like same.

If we can use VAST + SAT DISH for TV why not internet. The tecknowlgey must be there.???????????????????????

Hey Jim & Lambie

Yuglamron · Guru

The technology is out there but for me the cost is prohibitive.

The following is one company that does the satellite internet under the NBN system if you were in an area where the NBN would not be available.

https://www.skymesh.net.au/

I have no connection to the company and do not know anyone who uses the system either. Just a net search.

Personally when travelling I use a Telstra 4G Wi-Fi modem which of course only works if you have a signal. Telstra at the moment cover more of the country geographically than the rest as far as I am aware.

Old Col · Veteran Member

liz795 wrote:
hi all
But what i would like to know , has anyone got satellite internet how reliable is it , and the cost
THANKS

from the ad up above

any help

http://www.satphonesales.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=112

Bruce and Bev · Guru

satellite internet will cost you a bomb - you also need a second dish - you cannot use the one for both internet and TV

KFT · Guru

you could also try this company which I have no affiliation with, just read about them in magazines

www.ant.com.au/portable-satellite/

frank

Spydermann · Senior Member

I have a Telstra mobile phone and just use tethering to get internet access on either a tablet or PC. Course it only works when there is phone reception. Just got to make sure I don't exceed my monthly quota as it gets expensive. Satellite phone (hence internet) is expensive but then it depends how much you need it.

liz795 · Veteran Member

thanks to all
checked out all the links ,it is very expensive. I thought this would be easy, to get all the services in one.
Icant work out why the cost cant be the same as our broadband at home .I will have to work out an alternative
i heard about a dongle , we will have to see how that works and the cost,

JayDee · Guru

We have a portable satellite dish and we take our Foxtel iq Shhh!!! shhhh!!box with us. So cost wise very effective. We get Ch. 2.7.9.10 and SBS plus all the fox programs. Plus any programs we have pre recorded, we can watch same at our leisure. Plus we can also record programs whilst on the road.
A bit of a drain on the power supply. Plus not always easy to locate the C1. Satellite up there in the big blue yonder. But well worth having the set up.
Just google satellite dishes and it will all be there for you to discover.
Jay&Dee

Baz421 · Guru

Tat last I looked at this subject the "problem" was a delay in upload/download ie when you key in something it goes up then back with result - a small delay was causing frustration. Cost was also an issue.

DON'T CONFUSE SATELLITE INTERNET AS REFERRED TO IN OP WITH SATELLITE RECEIVERS which most of us use.

Spydermann · Senior Member

There is what is called a propagation delay. You can see it on TV when there is an interview between the studio & an outside satellite broadcast. You can also tell when your phone has been re-routed via a satellite when connecting overseas rather than the undersea optical fibre - there is a time delay when talking and sometimes a bit of an echo.

If you are playing real-time computer games with a satellite internet connection, you are dead before you know it.

Plendo · Guru

There was an article on ABC Radio today talking about problems with satellite NBN service, they were talking about a temporary satellite that is in position now, and how there is not enough bandwidth to satisfy all of teh users, thus kids doing school of the air were not able to download messages etc.

They spoke about each subscribed user having 20gb per month, but they system only being capable of providing 9gb per month, thus the NBN co had limited the amount each subscription could use on a ration basis.

They also spoke about two new satellites going into service sometime next year to get the supply to exceed demand (I would almost bet it wont).

Base on this, I doubt if it would be possible, or practical for a traveller to subscribe to the service they were talking about. I am not sure what else is out there on the "commercial" satellites.

Hey Jim · Guru

You have won us Bruce,

We have all that you require (1) mother in laws old car. (2) The mother inlaw. Where do we sign up!!!!!!!! biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

Forget the Senor office Girl. What you say Bev.

Hey Jim

-- Edited by Hey Jim on Monday 8th of June 2015 03:20:49 PM

-- Edited by Hey Jim on Monday 8th of June 2015 03:21:18 PM

KFT · Guru

Bruce and Bev wrote:
satellite internet will cost you a bomb - you also need a second dish - you cannot use the one for both internet and TV

I think you may be able to. If you use The A.N.T satellite internet service your dish would be aimed at Optus D1 now only 4 degrees away is Optus C1(where the TV comes from) so if you fitted a 4 degree offset mount for a VAST LNB you should be aimed at both sats.

Or you could do your internet stuff and then just rotate the dish 4 degrees to watch TV(with a VAST LNB fitted)

There are many offset brackets available these days that would permit you to view several sat signals.

frank

liz795 · Veteran Member

Thanks for all your help, will try to absorb all the information
It really helps a lot, for us wanna be caravaners

SoloCraig · Member

Hi there Forum

Its been almost 12 months since the last update on satellite internet, so was wondering how everyone went?

So far, ANT Systems seems to be at the front of the pack for satellite internet offerings, although the new NBN satellite is due to launch in a couple of months so things there may change.....

I'm looking to travel and work so need solid, reliable internet access for VoIP and videoconferencing, and whilst I love the East Coast of Australia and its readily available mobile (and therefore hotspot) coverage, I'd very much like to hear from anyone who has managed a reliable solution once they left the standard telco coverage area, and managed to maintain access.

Cheers, Craig

rrakausk · Veteran Member

Good luck with mobile satelite internet for cheap in Oz!.
The company that supplies the satellite for NBN co is called Viasat, resells in the USA to mobile users starting at $39 a month through their retailer Exede.

However as far as I know they don't plan to offer retail services here, because that may undermine the mobile price gouging that exists currently.

You may be able to get an NBN high speed satellite connection if you park your van "permanently" someplace and get the dish mounted on a pole.
The headache then is aiming it correctly when you start to travel again.
The data plans and speeds are very good with this option btw. 30gb a month (peak rates) for $50 and 25mb download speeds.

Funny how the mobile tech exists for US customers but we have to suffer price gouging for similar AND substandard services
(10gb a month at 500 kbs download speed for $149? gimme a break).

NAh they don't want us to use their satellites when they can get us paying $10 a gb for 4G on wireless as well (where available and that is only in major country centres).

Hylife · Guru

Unfortunately Telstra has no satellites to speak of that are worth anything but scrap. All satellite stuff these days is done on Optus satellites (including Foxtel) and they will not take on private customers.

Under the Communications Guarantee legislation, Telstra is required to provide to everyone who wants it with a "fixed" phone service and an internet connection of at least 9.6 kilobits per second.
That is approx. a quarter of the speed of the old dial up system.

No one is entitled to mobile internet or mobile phone service.

Remote farmers can however have this fixed system connected up by Telstra for the princely sum of $299, just like anyone else who orders a home phone in the big smoke.

After the truck has delivered the two 4 meter satellite dishes and associated hardware (1 for phone and 1 for Internet), they will fly out to your remote property by helicopter and hook you up. All for $299.

Thankfully the Satellite Internet connection is blistering fast at approx. 250kbs (6 times faster than dial up), but that is as good as it gets, and the delay from clicking a link until the downloaded page is sent can be up to 15 seconds or more.

How do I know this? Because I work with computers (fixing problems) all day for a living, and because I have a niece in outback NSW approx. 70km from the nearest town with this exact system.
Their house is approx. 60km up a gravel road and 8km from the road via what we jokingly call the airstrip, a 50M wide driveway through the bush and across 2 large 20,000 acre paddocks.
To have a normal copper wire phone and Internet service it simply would not work as the distance to the nearest phone exchange is far too great. Should they wish to cough up approx. $150,000 Telstra would be all to happy to install a 'Top Hat' (roadside micro exchange) at the halfway distance, but that would still only work for phone. Because of that age old problem of 'long run resistance' of copper wire, ADSL broadband is distance limited to approx. 5 to 6km.

So when will they get the NBN? Like many farmers, Never! It is simply not commercially viable to expend such vast sums for a handful of farmers.