It may seem strange but our previous caravan had for a tare weight in Queensland "over 1100kgs" marked on the rego papers. On further searching I did find a manufacturer tare weight of 1674 kgs. Which really means nothing only to the actual buyer.
The main one is ATM.
It is a real shame caravan manufacturers can't build caravans with real ATM's like for a single axle 2000kg max or 2500kg max.
A duel axle at 3000kgs or 3500kgs simple as, no brainer.
My new caravan tare weight is 2400kgs with 400 pay load which brings that to 2800kgs and axle group of 2900kgs.
Park it along side another brand with the same wheels, tyres, suspension, chassis rated at 3200kgs or 3500kgs.
Tyres are good for 1180kgs each, 2500kgs for each axle, springs, at list 1000kgs each but my caravan only good for 2800kgs with about 260kgs on the tow bar, is that confusing or what.
Peter maybe the dealer is going to have the unit weighed in the as delivered condition so that the tare weight on registration is correct. Most dealers register the van on manufactured weight but by the time they fit air con., awning and other accessories the van is way over what is on the rego papers.
Radar I am struggling with your maths 1180 times 2 is not 2500 at least not where I went to school , or are you saying the actual axel is allowed 2500 kg ? but I do agree it should be a whole lot simpler and clearer.
However just because a single axel is allowed x amount does not mean that a tandem axel is allowed twice that figure,
As a single axel on a truck semi trailer is allowed 9 tonne. Tandem axel group is allowed 16.5 tonne and a tri axel group is only allowed 20 tonne on Spring suspension air bags are allowed a bit more on each and mass managment is alittle more again,,but you can see my point
Woody
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I think what Brenda and Alan are saying would be correct.
Whats the point in having a tare stamped at say 2000kg then adding aircon, batteries solar etc and not stating this as tare.
Thus confusing the buyer into thinking they have more payload to play with.
On the plus side, if theres no tare weight stamped you can request they do it once its ready for delivery giving you a more accurate figure.
Hope this helps.
Kezngaz.
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However, on the Compliance Plate I noticed that the Tare weight was not noted.
I do understand the Tare/ATM/GTM difference, but was surprised to see the Tare not noted.
You may be surprised how little has to be included on the vehicle plate. The following has been extracted from VSB-01 June 2015 edition.
The vehicle plate must show at least the following information: Manufacturer's or Importer's Name (whichever party takes responsibility for the certification statement); Trailer Model; Vehicle Identification Number (specified in Section 4); Date of Manufacture (month/year, e.g. 02/08); Aggregate Trailer Mass (kg); and The Certification Statement (specified below).
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However just because a single axel is allowed x amount does not mean that a tandem axel is allowed twice that figure, As a single axel on a truck semi trailer is allowed 9 tonne. Tandem axel group is allowed 16.5 tonne and a tri axel group is only allowed 20 tonne on Spring suspension air bags are allowed a bit more on each and mass managment is alittle more again,,but you can see my point
These figures apply to heavy vehicles. The reason for the down rating of the individual axle ratings for multiple axles in an axle group is the result of what the roads can support. With our light trailers a load sharing twin axle group will carry twice the weight that the individual axles are rated at. If the axles are not load sharing (eg most independent suspension) then there is a little bit of down rating. From VSB-01:
All axles in a group must be interconnected by a load sharing suspension except in a close-coupled axle group (where the two axles in a group have their centres not more than one metre apart, three axles not more than 2 metres apart or four or more axles not more than 3.2 metres apart) provided that the load carrying capacity of each axle in the group and the wheels and tyres fitted to it is: at least 120% of the load on that axle with the trailer at its ATM
In other words the axles must be rated at least 120% of the weight they are expected to carry.
-- Edited by PeterD on Tuesday 13th of September 2016 10:05:37 PM
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