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You can sit back and do nothing, that's what they expect you to do. Or you can demand CHANGE 
 

 

The Pension Assets Test to be

implemented on 1 January 2017.

So here's fair warning to all politicians of any persuasion, this

group of aged voters may be about to make the greatest impact on any Federal

election in history, ignoring them may be the start of a changed political

environment in this country.

Change the Entitlements

I absolutely agree, if a pension isn't an entitlement, neither is

theirs. They keep telling us that paying us an aged pension isn't

sustainable.

Paying politicians all the perks they get is even less sustainable!

The politicians themselves, in Canberra, brought it up, that the Age of

Entitlements is over:

The author is asking each addressee to forward this email to a

minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to

do likewise. In three days, most people in Australia will have this message.

This is one idea that really should be passed around because the rot has to

stop somewhere.

Proposals to make politicians shoulder their share of the weight now

that the Age of Entitlement is over:

1. Scrap political pensions.

Politicians can purchase their own retirement plan, just as most

other working Australians are expected to do.

2. Retired politicians (past, present & future) participate in

Centrelink.

A Politician collects a substantial salary while in office but

should receive no salary when they're out of office.

Terminated politicians under 70 can go get a job or apply for

Centrelink unemployment benefits like ordinary Australians.

Terminated politicians under 70 can negotiate with Centrelink like

the rest of the Australian people.

3. Funds already allocated to the Politicians' retirement fund be

returned immediately to Consolidated Revenue.

This money is to be used to pay down debt they created which they

expect us and our grandchildren to repay for them.

4. Politicians will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.

Politicians pay will rise by the lower of, either the CPI or 3%.

5. Politicians lose their privileged health care system and

participate in the same health care system as ordinary Australian people.

i.e. Politicians either pay for private cover from their own funds

or accept ordinary Medicare.

6. Politicians must equally abide by all laws they impose on the

Australian people.

7. All contracts with past and present Politicians men/women are

void effective 31/12/16.

The Australian people did not agree to provide perks to Politicians,

that burden was thrust upon them.

Politicians devised all these contracts to benefit themselves.

Serving in Parliament is an honour not a career.

The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so our

politicians should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people, then it will

only take three or so days for most Australians to receive the message.

Don't you think it's time?

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX Parliament and help bring fairness back into

this country!

 

 



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Both sides of parliament planned to adjust the pension assets test so we've got no chance of changing anything.

We lost over $100 per fortnight but who cares, we could afford to. We basically have to spend a little bit more of our own money now. There's nothing wrong with that.

As our assets drop our pension will increase just like normal

Nothing's going to change despite a lot of ''hot air'' being released by a few wrinklies. As usual the media is ''whipping up a frenzy''.

Relax & enjoy retirement instead of tying yourself in knots.

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I am no fan of politicians, but at least lets get all the facts correct re their "pension".

1) They DO NOT receive the Age Pension when then leave parliament. Any pension they receive is part of their superannuation, as it should be. It is provided for out of their employer superannuation account, as it would be for any Australian. Whether that employer super scheme is too generous is different matter.

2) They DO purchase that superannuation, paying a fixed amount into their super account from their salary. It is in fact non negotiable and higher than many ordinary workers choose to pay into their salary, and is set at something like 11.5%. I know I never had to contribute that level, over and above employer contributions. I did have the option to contribute if I wished.

3) They cease to receive parliamentary salary when they leave parliament, just like anyone leaving a job. They would be expected to go to Centrelink if they looked to get benefits or assistance with employment.

4) What "privileged" health care system do they have?

5) Politicians ARE bound by the same laws that we are.

As I say, I am no fan of them, but this sort of Americanised stuff is no better than the drivel the politicians put out about themselves. I have commented on my thoughts about the changes to Aged Pension on another thread, so won't again, but I do feel for those that are affected by them.

Change the system, yes, but use facts to do it.



-- Edited by TheHeaths on Saturday 31st of December 2016 07:19:45 AM

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This subject is a no no on this forum if you had read the rules you would know so . All this was out before the last election and people did vote knowing this was about to happen on 1 - 01 2017 .

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How many times can you beat the same drum - this subject has been done to death. I agree with Brickles this will only start another round of personal attacks as has already happened whenever this subject has come up before.

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TheHeaths wrote:

I am no fan of politicians, but at least lets get all the facts correct re their "pension".

1) They DO NOT receive the Age Pension when then leave parliament. Any pension they receive is part of their superannuation, as it should be. It is provided for out of their employer superannuation account, as it would be for any Australian. Whether that employer super scheme is too generous is different matter.

2) They DO purchase that superannuation, paying a fixed amount into their super account from their salary. It is in fact non negotiable and higher than many ordinary workers choose to pay into their salary, and is set at something like 11.5%. I know I never had to contribute that level, over and above employer contributions. I did have the option to contribute if I wished.

3) They cease to receive parliamentary salary when they leave parliament, just like anyone leaving a job. They would be expected to go to Centrelink if they looked to get benefits or assistance with employment.

4) What "privileged" health care system do they have?

5) Politicians ARE bound by the same laws that we are.

As I say, I am no fan of them, but this sort of Americanised stuff is no better than the drivel the politicians put out about themselves. I have commented on my thoughts about the changes to Aged Pension on another thread, so won't again, but I do feel for those that are affected by them.

Change the system, yes, but use facts to do it.


Gday...

THANKS for that - some facts to balance the emotive rhetoric espoused above.

You did miss one though -

4. Politicians will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Politicians pay will rise by the lower of, either the CPI or 3%.

Politician remuneration is set by an independent panel -

The Remuneration Tribunal is an independent statutory body established by the Remuneration Tribunal Act 1973. This legislation allows the Tribunal to inquire into and determine allowances paid out of consolidated revenue to senators and members.

For interest -

Parliament Salaries.JPG

Cheers - John

 



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This particular piece in the opening statement was sent out byy privste message to me and many others taking 20 messages in total.
A friend found her facebook page had been hacked and as a result a lot of her friends including me received it.
Not sure if and correctness in it, just tha now she is in the middle of trying to clean up her facebook page because of this.

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We do not even know who the OP is , They haven't posted a name on there forum page could be anybody .

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Gunsondeck wrote:

 You can sit back and do nothing, that's what they expect you to do. Or you can demand CHANGE  


 You are a bit late pushing this one. The horse has bolted, too late to close the stable door.

The subject has previously well covered in this thread.



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Desert Dweller wrote:

Both sides of parliament planned to adjust the pension assets test so we've got no chance of changing anything.

We lost over $100 per fortnight but who cares, we could afford to. We basically have to spend a little bit more of our own money now. There's nothing wrong with that.

As our assets drop our pension will increase just like normal

Nothing's going to change despite a lot of ''hot air'' being released by a few wrinklies. As usual the media is ''whipping up a frenzy''.

Relax & enjoy retirement instead of tying yourself in knots.


Well said DD.

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brickies wrote:

We do not even know who the OP is , They haven't posted a name on there forum page could be anybody .


 You can gain a fair bit about him/her through the profile (just click on his nick.) Then have a look at the Posts on the LHS. When you click on either "Topics Started" or "Member Posts" you will see that the vast majority of his postings are jokes. Is this another or has he now joined the ranks of the stirrers?



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