I just bought an avan caravan and had my car a 2008 Toyota aurion fitted with a tow bar an electric brakes by Hayman Reece. The car was running out or rego so I took it to a garage that does pink slips for caravans, to my surprise I got knocked back because they said that the electric brakes were not working when I applied the brakes while they spun a wheel. According to them the wheel should have locked up.
I took the car back to Hayman Reece and they checked out all the voltages on the electric brakes and said there was nothing wrong with them. I then took the caravan to a local auto electrician and he said that there was nothing wrong with the braking system. As a final check my brother in law took the caravan for a drive behind his car and he said it was fine.
I have been told that with proportional electric brakes that they won't lock up the wheels when the car is stationery, does anyone have any suggestions.
I just bought an avan caravan and had my car a 2008 Toyota aurion fitted with a tow bar an electric brakes by Hayman Reece. The car was running out or rego so I took it to a garage that does pink slips for caravans, to my surprise I got knocked back because they said that the electric brakes were not working when I applied the brakes while they spun a wheel. According to them the wheel should have locked up.
I took the car back to Hayman Reece and they checked out all the voltages on the electric brakes and said there was nothing wrong with them. I then took the caravan to a local auto electrician and he said that there was nothing wrong with the braking system. As a final check my brother in law took the caravan for a drive behind his car and he said it was fine.
I have been told that with proportional electric brakes that they won't lock up the wheels when the car is stationery, does anyone have any suggestions.
Regaeds. Bob
Hi Bob
Yes there is an option to use the brake controller manually.
As I do not know which one you have its hard to be specific, so if you can post the brand and model number?
The car was running out or rego so I took it to a garage that does pink slips for caravans, to my surprise I got knocked back because they said that the electric brakes were not working when I applied the brakes while they spun a wheel. According to them the wheel should have locked up.
The brakes should lock up. Did you just put your foot on the brake pedal or did you use the manual control on the brake controller. If you used the latter method the brakes should have locked.
By the way, I hope you got either the Guardian or the Vinotour models. They are are proportional controllers. The others are just synchroniser models which the big producers no longer sell. Here is the difference between the two.
-- Edited by PeterD on Saturday 2nd of September 2017 06:08:11 PM
The controller that is bought was the techonsha primus.
That is a good controller. My question was - when you tested the brakes during the pink slip test die you use the brake pedal or the lever on the controller? If you used the brake pedal you will not get much braking action. When you apply the brake you need to be moving and the pendulum will swing forward to give you the extra braking power. If you are stationary and you use the manual control that will give you full braking power.
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The controller that is bought was the techonsha primus.
That is a good controller. My question was - when you tested the brakes during the pink slip test die you use the brake pedal or the lever on the controller? If you used the brake pedal you will not get much braking action. When you apply the brake you need to be moving and the pendulum will swing forward to give you the extra braking power. If you are stationary and you use the manual control that will give you full braking power.
Amazed that a 'Pink Slip' mechanic would not be aware of this, if that's the case. Rather basic stuff.
Amazed that a 'Pink Slip' mechanic would not be aware of this, if that's the case. Rather basic stuff.
Try another provider.
I would not do that, RMS is likely to get involved if you do that.
How does that work then? ie. 'The involvement of the RMS'.
We don't have the Pink slip system here in Qld. We only need roadworthy & gas safety certificates so I have no first hand experience with the system.
I would have thought that the consumer is entitled to go to a provider of their choice.
The actual technical aspects of the certification are the responsibility of the provider.
Are you implying that if you go to one provider then you are bound to them for all future tests? I think not although it would be prudent to explain the circumstances to the 'new' provider.
I would have thought that in normal circumstances you are entitled to attend to a 'defect' in a failed inspection & then take the vehicle to any provider that you choose.
In NSW we are free to select someone to inspect our vehicles and issue a pink slip. However if your vehicle fails then a rejection slip is issued and that is recorded against your vehicle on the RMS database. When you rectify the fault that has been reported you go back to the inspector that issued the rejection and have that rejection removed. If you go pink slip shopping then that is likely to be picked up the situation investigated. If your vehicle is part of the investigations then who knows what they could pick up.
In addition if you do go pink slip shopping you are likely to have other faults reported. A similar thing happened to a work college in the ACT when he brought a Qld vehicle down on transfer. He lost his rejection slip so when he went back they started the inspection again and found extra faults. If he had his rejection slip they would only have looked for the repairs of the faults.
-- Edited by PeterD on Wednesday 6th of September 2017 09:01:20 AM
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PeterD Nissan Navara D23 diesel auto, Spaceland pop-top Retired radio and electronics technician. NSW Central Coast.
I would assume, given the info contained within this thread, simply return to the original pink slip tester, submit the van/vehicle for a 're-test' and this time when the brakes are tested, use the manual slide on the controller rather than just pressure on the vehicle's brake pedal to test the van's brakes.
If it passes (and it seems it should), then sensitively let the pink slip tester know how the test should have been carried out initially.
Of course, all the above information/advice contained within this thread is completely dependent on the fact that the brakes on the van were/are ACTUALLY working correctly - just tested incorrectly.
Cheers - John
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In NSW we are free to select someone to inspect our vehicles and issue a pink slip. However if your vehicle fails then a rejection slip is issued and that is recorded against your vehicle on the RMS database. When you rectify the fault that has been reported you go back to the inspector that issued the rejection and have that rejection removed. If you go pink slip shopping then that is likely to be picked up the situation investigated. If your vehicle is part of the investigations then who knows what they could pick up.
In addition if you do go pink slip shopping you are likely to have other faults reported. A similar thing happened to a work college in the ACT when he brought a Qld vehicle down on transfer. He lost his rejection slip so when he went back they started the inspection again and found extra faults. If he had his rejection slip they would only have looked for the repairs of the faults.
-- Edited by PeterD on Wednesday 6th of September 2017 09:01:20 AM
