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Gen problem


Just before I trot off to the generator shop I'm wondering if anyone here has any ideas on what might be wrong with my BlackRidge 2kva Gen .

So its done no work at all . Engine runs fine .

But no power being delivered . The voltage meter on it shows nil . The overload button is in the in position . I've pulled the end cover off the unit and nothing appears to be burnt . There doesn't appear to be a fuse anywhere .

Thoughts ?

Cheers AL



-- Edited by Swoffer on Friday 27th of October 2017 12:47:07 PM



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A picture of the generator would be helpful. A search on google doesnot come up with that generator. Posibly a faulty AVR, so picture with the end cover off would be helpful. Also a posabillity the rotor has lost its residual magnetism, quite easy to fix.



-- Edited by DeBe on Friday 27th of October 2017 01:03:09 PM

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DeBe wrote:

 A search on google doesnot come up with that generator.


-- Edited by DeBe on Friday 27th of October 2017 01:03:09 PM


 Um , thats possibly because I said blueridge and its actually BLACKridge . Sorry blehblehbleh



-- Edited by Swoffer on Friday 27th of October 2017 01:37:07 PM

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Not sure why the pics are showing up sideways , they are going in right way up .crycry



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Have marked the AVR, these are onGENERATOR.JPG Ebay quite cheep. But the first thing you need to do is remove the Positive & Neg push on terminals on the brush holder. Then using some leads flash 12V DC on the brush holder (observing the polarity) Then reconnect terminals & it will probably work. If not get back.



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so by flash you mean , a touch , a few seconds , a minute or more ?

 

Would hooking the Ctek charger to it do the job ?



Cheers Al



-- Edited by Swoffer on Friday 27th of October 2017 02:29:00 PM

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Just a few seconds.

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hi
Still have a cheap gene actually more than 1 . Purchased at auction anyways once I got the thing to start NO 240v output ,bugger.
Took the unit around to local tool repairer [All power tools including gene etc ] Found regulator gone and replaced with a AEG reg . Gotta be lucky some times !!
Yea it had a rusty tank also but nuthn like an out board tank would not fix . 5500kva happily now .


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Bought a Chinese\Honda, powered 3.5\3.8kva Large briefcase on rear wheels. $450\470ish?.
7 yrs or so ago.
Gone through several Cyclones running us and next door. Air Cond too.
Runs my van Incl Aircond and Microwave on eco.

Just remember to drain tank. It does NOT like stale juice over 3 months. NKG Plug annually,
and I run Castrol EDGE 10-60 in it, I have left over from Rally days.
Smooth as. 3rd pull every tine.

Plumbers up here put me onto it.
Use on sites as Trade machine. ALL day. Every day.
It's a genuine Honda export from Japan donk with engine No ground out.
Not a copy.
They NOT allowed to export to China. Yea.

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DeBe wrote:

Just a few seconds.


 Ok , tried that , no joy . no

 

So DeBe the bit you labeled AVR is a regulator i assume ?

 



-- Edited by Swoffer on Friday 27th of October 2017 09:22:10 PM



-- Edited by Swoffer on Friday 27th of October 2017 09:22:46 PM

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Hi
Try and get a warranty unit as I assume spares are hard to get if at all .
And/or find a good experienced repairer who can diagnose the problem and give u a quote . U Don't care if its used parts as long as it goes correct ??



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REG.9.JPGREG.10.JPGREG.11.JPGREG.12.JPGSwoffer, theres plenty of those AVRs on Ebay from $15 to $25 from China Ive used them & they work. They do take about 30 days to get here. These pictures are the most common fault with the REG, dry solder joints on the main switching transistor. I have repaired some by re soldering the transistor.



-- Edited by DeBe on Friday 27th of October 2017 10:47:41 PM

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One quick test is feed 12V to the brushes with the engine running & there should be some voltage output albeit low. This will prove the AVR is faulty.

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AVR , GMC, HOMELITE.jpgThis is the circuit of those AVRs.



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Blackridge generators are almost exclusively sold by SuperCheap so maybe contact them for spares etc.

Good Luck.



-- Edited by hako on Friday 27th of October 2017 10:56:17 PM

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Thanks guys , great info , much appreciated .

DeBe the underside of that regulator you have pictured is identical to the one on mine except for the color of the wires . Probably an generic unit that is used in a lot of different Chinese machines eh .

What do I search for on Ebay ? I had a quick search and there are just about a trillion bits of electronic gadgetry therebiggrin

 

Thanks again .



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Yes they are a Generic AVR as they are used in a lot of diferent brand generators. Its probably worth carefully cutting open the corner & checking, it maybe the same fault. I just searched with (Generator AVR).



-- Edited by DeBe on Saturday 28th of October 2017 01:34:11 PM

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IMG_3731.JPGOk another quick pesky question if its ok DeBe .

In the pic you marked with + & - you have the yellow as pos .

This is a pic of the AVR I've taken off with a little tag on the blue that says + , is this a chinese thing perhaps ?



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Obviously ive given you the wrong polarity in the picture I posted, sorry about that.

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All good , thanks for the tips .

 

Ive found those regulators for $17 in aus or $11 in Chin 



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The Aust will be a Chinese one but you will get it quicker.

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