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How do nomads attach fittings to the thin outer aluminum skin of their vans. I recently fitted anti flap brackets with 1/8" ally pop rivets and on the first test the batten hook caught on one  and almost ripped it off. On a couple I was lucky to strike the frame behind and they are firm.



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Hi Willdoe,

Do a search for "peel rivets"

They open up like a banana peel when they are installed and you only need a standard pop rivet gun.

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Hi Willdoe.

As Dickodownunder has just mentioned the "Peel Rivets are good, however they may produce 3 small indentations from the rear as they set. They are ok if your material is reasonably thick, and they will crack fibreglass surfaces. I found out the hard way.

I have used the "Tri Fold" rivet throughout my van when I built it. They work the reverse to the Peel, as they fold out and concertina down when being set and form a flange being the surface.

I would suggest that you do a quick Google search and determine what best suits your situation. 

Hope this helps.

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In Our old converted bus . The inner panels came out and we found any additions attached to outside had an alloy plate on inside . Either L bracket screwed or just sikoflexed depending on strength required ?

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Unfortunately I can't get behind to fit backing plates. I think I will look into those trifold rivets as suggested by Hetho. Looks like 3/16" is the smallest diameter. Thanks For replies.
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My Explorer has a pop riveted and sikoflexed alloy plate on outside to spread the contact area.

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Willdoe wrote:

Unfortunately I can't get behind to fit backing plates. I think I will look into those trifold rivets as suggested by Hetho. Looks like 3/16" is the smallest diameter. Thanks For replies.
Willdoe


 The peel rivets wont dent the panel if the component that they are required to hold has a larger surface mounting area than the spread dimension of the rivet.

You can buy 1/8th inch peel rivets.

 



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Thanks guys ,i didn't realise such pop rivets existed .

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Be carful drilling into the outer skin in case of wires . I use a piece of copper tube only allowing a thickness of a match to go through the wall . As drilling through thin alloy when it bites it bites . I have seen a drill go through the outer skin and through cables and or the inner wall .

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Be carful drilling into the outer skin in case of wires . I use a piece of copper tube only allowing a thickness of a match to go through the wall . As drilling through thin alloy when it bites it bites . I have seen a drill go through the outer skin and through cables and or the inner wall .

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 When drilling thru the walls I fit a depth limiter to the drill.

Drill a hole through an appropriate length of doweling or scrap timber. Put your drill bit through it with just a little bit of drill protruding.  The dowling stops the drill going in too far.

A bit of tape over the surface being drilled stops you scratching off any surface paint or whatever.



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Aus-Kiwi has the right idea, spread the load, a plate Sika-flexed in position can do that, or a backing plate, or a rib structure.

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