Injector cleaner

Ron-D · Guru

Injector cleaner

Ge · Senior Member

www.berrimadiesel.com

Give em a try with your question, but i am thinking EGR blockage, all part of the pollution stuff.
Any smoke coming out, yes i would try injector cleaner, to start with.
Good luck i will follow this post just to see the outcome. I am not a mechanic and there are far wiser on here.

Ge

yobarr · Guru

Hi Ron.....there no doubt will be a hundred different recipes and remedies given to cure your cars ills,but I have

had great success with using Castrol Activ 2 stroke engine oil in my diesel tank,at a ratio of 3ml/litre of diesel.

Some people run up to 5ml/litre,but my car works fine at 3.

Works majic,cleaner smoother running,more power,and arguably better mileage. There may well be some fatalists

warning that such a potion will cause an early death,or such,but it works for me! At $30 (guess) for a bottle,it

perhaps would be worth giving it a go before spending big dollars?

Good luck.

Cheers

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-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 28th of March 2018 06:43:47 PM

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Iâve hooked up Water / Meth kit . 6.5 turbo diesel . Starts and runs much much cleaner. Keep Fuel filters well serviced . Even added an extra fuel filter . Every 3rd full tank refill ( 300 litres )! Add 1 litre of two stroke oil . Usually before interstate or long runs ?? Keeps inlet temps down plus cleans combustion chamber, heat plugs big time . http://www.dieselarmy.com/engine-tech/how-it-works/how-it-works-water-methanol-injection/

outlaw40 · Guru

Ron d first question has to be how many miles has it done, personally doubt that its the injectors. if your up around 100,000 i would suggest egr blockage almost certain . Jury is still out on using 2 stoke oil but it sure wont fix your injectors if there's a problem, with modern injectors the commercial injector cleaners won't help much either .

Ron-D · Guru

Thanks for all your replies I will give the two stroke oil a go ,sounds like it cant hurt and a lot of good people here use it,as far as the egr goes about 15 ,000 ks ago I had a complete manifold clean, the car has only 120 ,000 ks on the the clock,and has been a perfect runner until the other day when. I decided to give it a run after sitting in the garage for three mths.,I should have bought an isitzu but they werent around back then biggrin all jokes aside I hope it comes good these days basic services Are my limit...no smoke Ge...

deverall11 · Guru

outlaw40 wrote:
..... if your up around 100,000 i would suggest egr blockage almost certain . Jury is still out on using 2 stoke oil but it sure wont fix your injectors if there's a problem, with modern injectors the commercial injector cleaners won't help much either .

There are plenty of pictures on the internet of inlet manifolds clogged up from soot. High mileage and unblocked EGR, candidate for clogged manifold.

Jury might be out on the use of 2 stroke oil but, watching the Australian F1 GP on the weekend, one of the rule changes is the banning of mixing oil in the fuel.

Apparently this was giving them a performance boost.

Larry

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

No not on petrol turbo engines . Oil in chamber promotes detonation . I think the oil was used to assist fuel economy . Plus F1 is a little like top fuelers . What they do has sfa to do on road cars . More so diesels . Your model possibly has a variable rate turbine housing ? This maybe the problem ? Fuel filters all serviced ?

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jontee · Veteran Member

G`day Ron,
Check out Cost Effective Maintenance website. I have used their products for years with great results.
Cheers,
Jontee

hoffy · Newbie

X2 for the Cost Effective Maintenance products. Have a look at their website, lots to read there.

Suggest you try their FTC Decarboniser and CRD fuel enhancer. Relatively inexpensive way to keep the combustion areas of your engine clean.

Ron-D · Guru

Thanks Jontee and Hoffy will do...

blaze · Guru

snake oil works best
cheers
blaze

Ron-D · Guru

Your a funny man blaze biggrin but you know what you can do with your oil.. The engine light has come on now and the car feels worse,next week sometime I will book it into the dealership this will need more than a basic service or injector addatives ,will eventually let others on here hnow what the problem was ,after they have emptied my bank account blankstare ...

blaze · Guru

Ron-D wrote:
Your a funny man blaze but you know what you can do with your oil.. The engine light has come on now and the car feels worse,next week sometime I will book it into the dealership this will need more than a basic service or injector addatives ,will eventually let others on here hnow what the problem was ,after they have emptied my bank account ...

That is the only way to sort problems like this, there is no additive made that will help IMHO {that is why I made the snake oil comment, that's what its called in the trade), hope they don't burn your pockets to much

cheers

blaze

Ron-D · Guru

Me too.

patrol03 · Senior Member

Years ago I used to drive a tipper powered with a GM 671.We found that a gallon of Kero in the full tank of diesel gave it a big boost and kept components fairly clean. Great engines those old GM's and did it cackle.Nothing like a 671 for a good sound out the exhaust.

yobarr · Guru

patrol03 wrote:
Years ago I used to drive a tipper powered with a GM 671.We found that a gallon of Kero in the full tank of diesel gave it a big boost and kept components fairly clean. Great engines those old GM's and did it cackle.Nothing like a 671 for a good sound out the exhaust.

Magic engines they were,as were the 653s,but the 892s were in a class of their own.....those were the days!

People who werent truckies probably wont understand......

Cheers.

aussie_paul · Guru

yobarr wrote:
patrol03 wrote:
Years ago I used to drive a tipper powered with a GM 671.We found that a gallon of Kero in the full tank of diesel gave it a big boost and kept components fairly clean. Great engines those old GM's and did it cackle.Nothing like a 671 for a good sound out the exhaust.
Magic engines they were,as were the 653s,but the 892s were in a class of their own.....those were the days!
People who werent truckies probably wont understand......
Cheers.

I sure do.

Aussie Paul. smile

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Ahh two stroke . Rebuilt a few of them Way back . Not like a normal engine

yobarr · Guru

Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Ahh two stroke . Rebuilt a few of them Way back . Not like a normal engine

Hi Graeme....I guess that you also had a bit of experience with TS3 engines in Commers from early 60s? You could hear them 2 miles away,usually single drive towing 2 axle dog trailers....slowly,but big gear in their day!! Memories..... Cheers.

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Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Commer knockers . Lol Yep . 3 cyl 6 pistons . Re built them too . Was apprentice mechanic. My mates worked in automotive machine shop. Although I was dairy farming at the time . Milked cows before work . Then milked 160 cows again when I got home . Teens wont do that work these days . Family farm But very productive!!

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yobarr · Guru

Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Commer knockers . Lol Yep . 3 cyl 6 pistons . Re built them too . Was apprentice mechanic. My mates worked in automotive machine shop. Although I was dairy farming at the time . Milked cows before work . Then milked 160 cows again when I got home . Teens wont do that work these days . Family farm But very productive!!

-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Saturday 31st of March 2018 10:40:53 PM

Yes, have also done the dairy farming bit with 300 cows! 98 hours per week (7x14 hour days) for $28. . Agree with your comment about teens these days......they dont seem to want to do ANY work!

blaze · Guru

yobarr wrote:
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Commer knockers . Lol Yep . 3 cyl 6 pistons . Re built them too . Was apprentice mechanic. My mates worked in automotive machine shop. Although I was dairy farming at the time . Milked cows before work . Then milked 160 cows again when I got home . Teens wont do that work these days . Family farm But very productive!!

-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Saturday 31st of March 2018 10:40:53 PM
Yes, have also done the dairy farming bit with 300 cows! 98 hours per week (7x14 hour days) for $28. . Agree with your comment about teens these days......they dont seem to want to do ANY work!

Plenty of younger people doing the farming thing in my neck of the woods, most of them 3 and more generations. Very vibrant agg industry. they do dairy to cropping in soil thatgrows babies

cheers

blaze

Santa · Guru

Used to work on a drill rig powered by a GM 6-71 diesel, lots of power as long as you kept the revs up.

The thing used to scream, cant say it was a lot of fun to work next to, hearing protection mandatory.

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Yes I was meaning compared to town kids . Plus the learning different trades . To run a farm successfully you need to be jack of all trades . Even Vet . Or the costs would be prohibitive! Plus somewhere in there we trained a derby winning trotter . Albas Reign 1985 . https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Trotting_Derby

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yobarr · Guru

Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Yes I was meaning compared to town kids . Plus the learning different trades . To run a farm successfully you need to be jack of all trades . Even Vet . Or the costs would be prohibitive! Plus somewhere in there we trained a derby winning trotter . Albas Reign 1985 . https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Trotting_Derby

-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Sunday 1st of April 2018 10:01:18 AM

Strange coincidence....I used to be involved in training trotters too,for a chap named Dave Jessop,who owned a horse named Chequer Board.Won NZ cup (?) I think it was,before being sold to Andy Carmichael,who promptly sold him to the Yanks.

-- Edited by yobarr on Sunday 1st of April 2018 03:36:27 PM

Phillipn · Guru

yobarr wrote:
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Yes I was meaning compared to town kids . Plus the learning different trades . To run a farm successfully you need to be jack of all trades . Even Vet . Or the costs would be prohibitive! Plus somewhere in there we trained a derby winning trotter . Albas Reign 1985 . https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Trotting_Derby

-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Sunday 1st of April 2018 10:01:18 AM
Strange coincidence....I used to be involved in training trotters too,for a chap named Dave Jessop,who owned a horse named Chequer Board.Won NZ cup (?) I think it was,before being sold to Andy Carmichael,who promptly sold him to the Yanks.

-- Edited by yobarr on Sunday 1st of April 2018 03:36:27 PM

Did they use injector cleaner on the trotter? and does it show up in a swab?

Start a new thread on trotters please.

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Na itâs plan B while injectors are being serviced .pre 80s Stella Frost Era ?

-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Sunday 1st of April 2018 11:25:40 PM

Ron-D · Guru

When the problem with the car is sorted will I report back the findings under the title trotters, seems strange but hey who am I to judge . biggrin

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Possibly more waste gate issue ? Although it sounds like youâve lost a few horses? Main part is to get looked into ASAP . A few $100 part could cost $1000âs .. More so high tech single rail motors ..