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Sirocco II fans


Hi All,

Have a couple of questions about these sirocco fans, i have had a look at you tube and the sirocco manual. It tells me that the diameter is 180 mm but i cannot find out what the measurement is from the base where it fits to the van to the edge of the fan, basically i am try to find out the dimensions so i can work out where i can put the fan so i can run the wiring for it. My next question is roughly the distance or range they would cover without to much effort for example 2 to 3 m ? As my van is approx 5 m do i put one in the middle or may be one at each end (i would prefer one in the middle). I am assuming that there are a few of you grey's out there with sirocco fans what are your thoughts?

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Alan.



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We have a Sirocco 11 fan that was fitted last winter.

Dimensions are 30 cm from the base by 9.5 cm across the fan width.

It is positioned at the end of our bed with range of 2.5 to 3.0 meters.

Wired direct to the battery.

We have just ventured across Central Qld  through the Territory and North West WA with temps of 26/27/28 & 32+

We would leave the fan on until 1/2/3 am or even 5am depending on temps.

Really a first class unit for its size and very low voltage usage.

We have Ibis aircon, gas heating, sat TV and reliable honda gennie.

The Sirocco 11 Fan is right up there with the  "must have" options when living full time on the road.

 

JohnR

 



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Hi John,

Thanks for the info sounds like i will be able to put it in the middle of the van some where.

Kind Regards,

Alan.



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Hi Trekka. Having 2 of these fans is not a silly idea. Great when you need them. Don't use much power.

Joe.



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They receive some very poor reports on a product review site and,
frankly, at A$150 I'd expect them to wake me with a cup of tea:

https://www.productreview.com.au/p/caframo-sirocco-ii.html



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Hi Trekka 

I put two in our van one each side,  three metres is about it if you want full effect , they are great , very quiet and use bugger all to run. Price wise yes they are up there , not cheap , but I researched round prior to getting them and couldn't find anything better.



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We have four Sirroco fans in our Conquest motorhome 2 at the dining area , and 2 in the becroom, one of which swivels cor use in the kitchen. We use the most convenient one or all of them at times. Would not e without them. Great value for money.

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I've got one that I mounted to a plywood base & move around as required. (Like a desk fan). Worth every dollar I paid for it. I would replace it imeadiatly if it failed. I've had mine six years now. I've only heard of the fan blade breaking, which I believe you can replace. Cheers Pete

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Mike Harding wrote:

They receive some very poor reports on a product review site and,
frankly, at A$150 I'd expect them to wake me with a cup of tea:

https://www.productreview.com.au/p/caframo-sirocco-ii.html


 Only four bad reviews on that site.    Five glowing reviews on this page already, with no bad. Untold thousands sold all over the world with bucketloads of good reviews all over.

Worth investing in.

Joe.

 



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Farmhat wrote:
Mike Harding wrote:

They receive some very poor reports on a product review site and,
frankly, at A$150 I'd expect them to wake me with a cup of tea:

https://www.productreview.com.au/p/caframo-sirocco-ii.html


 Only four bad reviews on that site.    Five glowing reviews on this page already


Five to four! Then they must be good. If it were four to five does that mean they must be bad?

I don't give a toss whether you buy one or not I'm simply linking to a site with some negative reports - you should be able to handle that.

Post content before edit noted btw.



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Mike Harding wrote:
Farmhat wrote:
Mike Harding wrote:

They receive some very poor reports on a product review site and,
frankly, at A$150 I'd expect them to wake me with a cup of tea:

https://www.productreview.com.au/p/caframo-sirocco-ii.html


 Only four bad reviews on that site.    Five glowing reviews on this page already


Five to four! Then they must be good. If it were four to five does that mean they must be bad?

I don't give a toss whether you buy one or not I'm simply linking to a site with some negative reports - you should be able to handle that.

Post content before edit noted btw.


 Good for you. Now about that cup of tea!!!!!!!!!!!

Joe



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We've had one in the MH for about 5 years, good reliable little fan, as others have commented, expensive.smile



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Worth the money.  A great addition to our van.  We have 4 (2 in bedroom end and 2 over club lounge).

Ian



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Hi All,

Thanks for the input, i will put the wiring in ready for when i purchase one or may be two.

Kind Regards,

Alan.



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Hi All,

Thanks for the input, i will put the wiring in ready for when i purchase one or may be two.

Kind Regards,

Alan.



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Just a small comment Trekka, before I brought our Sirocco fan, I read a comment where the units were cracking probably due to the rough ride in the van. When I installed ours, I fastened a small hard foam block to the wall, that sits under a lug farthest away from the base when in the stowed position. You will see it when you buy, so when the fan is stowed it is getting additional support when traveling.

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Good idea, Ian

I have recently purchased a Sirocco fan, I shall not know until summer comes along, how good it actually is

I shall buy a second one next year, if I am happy with the first one

Do you have a picture, as I am not sure exactly where you placed the foam

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Sirocco are a Canadian company
Their quality was good
Like a lot of manufactures they then manufactured in China
There was quality problems with motor and plastic cracking
They stopped manufacturing in China ans since a couple of years ago they have been manufacturing again in Canada - quality is back to first class
I now have two
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Will post a pickie tomorrow

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iana wrote:

Will post a pickie tomorrow


 Thanks for that, Ian



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I was looking at Sorocco fans when I did my 12v upgrade was was concerned about the price. 

At the time my Daughter got a new Mod Con Camper trailer & the dealer suggested that she consider the much cheaper ($95)  Canadian Caframo Bora fans.  They are about half the size of Sorocco model which was a major factor in the camper.

They looked good and had good reviews.  Worked well in her situation.

So I installed one on each side of our bed & they are fantastic.  We like to sleep with a slight breeze blowing over us.  There is very little motor noise & just a bit from the fan blades moving the air .. increases with speed.

To reduce the noise, & they are very quiet, I attached a heavy ply board at their fixing point, out of sight on the inside of the bedside wardrobes.

To go a bit further, & probably unnecessarily, I added two $2.50 electronic motor speed controllers.  Fantastic.  They can vary the speed from max down to just rotating & use almost no power themselves.

The Fans power consumption is 160ma, 200ma & 270ma each on the 3 switchable speeds ... varied downwards of course by the controllers.

 

In shore power situations we have always used a rotating $15 230v fan on the cupboard near the foot of the bed, but I suppose that we could do without it now.

 

Edit ... I may make one of them portable to allow use elsewhere  .. or get a third perhaps.  But where do you stop?



-- Edited by Cupie on Wednesday 27th of June 2018 11:48:26 AM

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I may make one of them portable to allow use elsewhere  .. or get a third perhaps.  But where do you stop?
This is the joys of Grey Nomad travelling, Cupie
You stop when you have adapted, to whatever you have

But...
There are no rules which say, that we must stop improving our situation

I started with two battery operated fans, (think that they were designed for a tent)
They are quiet, hang up on a cupboard doorknob, and give a very gentle down breeze, for a short distance

I then purchased a 12 volt ciggy type connection, with oscillation button, fan, from EBay
Noisy, but giving a breeze for about two metres maximum

I then purchased a more expensive fan locally, but it is no different from the cheap EBay one
In fact I no longer know which is which, as they both use about 0.45 amp

I then purchased a Sirocco 11 fan which I have wired up and screwed to the wall
It appears to give a gentle breeze at about 3 metres, reasonably quiet, and uses about 0.25 amp at high speed
I am able to manipulate this fan to reach, the table, or the kitchen, or the doorway, of the motorhome
I have not yet gone through a summer with it, if it is OK then I plan to buy a second one

But...
smile I now have five fans in the motorhome, just in case smile

Opps forgot to say that I have two of those thingy things, where you put water in, and squirt water on your face, with the battery operated fan running



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www.thehosebag.com.au/. These guys have the sirocco for $165 today. Not sure which model. No affiliation it was in RV Daily article about hose bags

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Cupie wrote:
she consider the much cheaper ($95)  Canadian Caframo Bora fans.
So I installed one on each side of our bed & they are fantastic.
I added two $2.50 electronic motor speed controllers.  Fantastic.

The Fans power consumption is 160ma, 200ma & 270ma each on the 3 switchable speeds


Very interesting. Still damn expensive for a 12V fan but considerably better than $165! The margins on that must be huge.

Do you have a link for the controllers? Are they PWM DC speed controllers? Why did you add them given the fan has three speeds as standard?



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This is the cheapest I have seen them ($140 & free postage) suncoastcaravanservice.com.au/product/sirocco-ii-fan-caframo-1224-volt-caravan-boat-fan-white-black/

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Mike  ...

This is the link to the PWM controllers.   I installed the controllers so that I had infinite control over the fan speed.  Even on the lowest speed there was a slight fan blade noise & at the quoted price there was little to loose in the experiment.  The boxes to house the controllers actually cost more than the controllers themselves.

Edit ... deleted link as it included too much personal info.

I will try again shortly.

 

 Try this one ... This is the mob that I got mine from but at the time they had a deal for two at around USD 2.88  .. free snail mail postage too.

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=mini+dc+5A+pwm+speed+controller&_sacat=0

 



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-- Edited by Cupie on Thursday 28th of June 2018 07:53:36 PM

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Cupie wrote:
I installed the controllers so that I had infinite control over the fan speed.

Thanks for that Cupie.

One thing to be cautious of when fitting a speed controller to any motor which wasn't designed for it is the possibility of overheating. Many motors use airflow generated by an internal fan (in this case external) for cooling and by slowing the motor down it may not receive sufficient flow. Put your hand on the case when it's been running on slow for a while to see if it's hot.



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Cupie wrote:
I installed the controllers so that I had infinite control over the fan speed.

Thanks for that Cupie.

One thing to be cautious of when fitting a speed controller to any motor which wasn't designed for it is the possibility of overheating. Many motors use airflow generated by an internal fan (in this case external) for cooling and by slowing the motor down it may not receive sufficient flow. Put your hand on the case when it's been running on slow for a while to see if it's hot.


 Yep....  Got that advice from my *'personal electronics advisor' too.  So that was part of my testing regime before I made the permanent installation.

* He is the sort of person who would rather build his own PWM controller or DC to DC device rather than take the cheaper option of buying a ching one.   Many years ago I taught him basic electronics etc but he just kept on going & left me far behind.   Makes & repairs all sorts of electronics just for relaxation in the evenings.  I just get a headache & end up with a pile of useless bits.   Whilst I can usually grasp the basic building blocks & perhaps first principles, he gets right down to the component level.  Bloody amazing but handy.



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P6292502.jpg It an't pretty, used some white rubber and by the time I had it all glued up it looked rather secondhand. The rubber block supports the gimbile when in the stowed position.

Tony you could do better than this!

Ian.



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Thanks for that, Ian

I now understand

I installed mine in the vertical position, (base at the bottom), while yours is in the horizontal, (base at the side)

I now see how you have been able to support your fan, while travelling

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