Charging Lithiam Batteries

Ron-D · Guru

RE: Charging Lithiam Batteries

Santa · Guru

Ron-D wrote:
Terry your here to drum up business you have made it hnow here that your in The business of fitting solar systems and have completely taken over most threads with your huge amounts of text,most of the old regulars dont even post anymore because you blast them out of the water with your texts ,look at what oldtrack had to go through,personally I found it a much better site when the answers were simpler and I miss the comments of the old regulars,this segmen has become to a certain extent your segment and no doubt thats why you got banned from the other forum,nothing personal against you Terry you know your business but you dont seem to understand its good to hear comments from others we all dont want your panels and your pwm Regulators .
The Trouble is then when others comment on something they have to put with your expert advice it becomes a contest and you ware them down so now we have only you most of the time boring ...

-- Edited by Ron-D on Wednesday 5th of June 2019 09:04:23 AM

-- Edited by Ron-D on Wednesday 5th of June 2019 10:04:34 AM

Have to say I have a similar view Ron, don't even bother posting to this type of thread knowing any opinion offered will be belittled and corrected using highly technical terminology, gets a little tiring. confuse

yobarr · Guru

Santa wrote:
Ron-D wrote:
Terry your here to drum up business you have made it hnow here that your in The business of fitting solar systems and have completely taken over most threads with your huge amounts of text,most of the old regulars dont even post anymore because you blast them out of the water with your texts ,look at what oldtrack had to go through,personally I found it a much better site when the answers were simpler and I miss the comments of the old regulars,this segmen has become to a certain extent your segment and no doubt thats why you got banned from the other forum,nothing personal against you Terry you know your business but you dont seem to understand its good to hear comments from others we all dont want your panels and your pwm Regulators .
The Trouble is then when others comment on something they have to put with your expert advice it becomes a contest and you ware them down so now we have only you most of the time boring ...
Have to say I have a similar view Ron, don't even bother posting to this type of thread knowing any opinion offered will be belittled and corrected using highly technical terminology, gets a little tiring.

I am with Terry on this one....surely one of the reasons we gave a forum is to share information? Each of us has a strong suit,Terrys being Solar,and it is ridiculous to sulk when your offered opinion is shown to be rubbish.Surely it would be better to learn from the advice offered? Sometimes I am frustrated by members who waffle-on about weights,when clearly they have little understanding of the subject.Surely it would be better to put on your Big Big pants and learn from those who actually know what they are talking about? Far from it being a contest where Terry is accused of trying to ware (wear) them down,perhaps Terry,too,is sometimes frustrated by unsupportable assertions from people with little understanding? Opinions and facts are often two very different things.Cheers

Ron-D · Guru

Thanks Santa I suspect your not the only one that can see the obvious.

Santa · Guru

yobarr wrote:

I am with Terry on this one....surely one of the reasons we gave a forum is to share information?

Correct, share is the operative word, sharing involves acknowledging the other persons viewpoint, there is a world of difference between sharing and dominating.

yobarr · Guru

Santa wrote:
yobarr wrote:

I am with Terry on this one....surely one of the reasons we gave a forum is to share information?
Correct, share is the operative word, sharing involves acknowledging the other persons viewpoint, there is a world of difference between sharing and dominating.

And frequently there is a difference between THINKING you know stuff,and actually knowing that stuff.When you actually DO know stuff,it often is frustrating to be contradicted by those who know little,but like to make big noises to appear knowledgeable.This doesnt bother me too much,but it can only serve to create total confusion among those on here who actually WANT to learn.As stated,facts and opinions often are two totally different things,but ignorance is bliss!! Cheers

blaze · Guru

I don't know how he runs a business, seems to spend so much time on here answering questions
cheers
blaze

T1 Terry · Guru

blaze wrote:
I don't know how he runs a business, seems to spend so much time on here answering questions
cheers
blaze

Don't let facts and common sense get in the way of a good attack plan wink Claiming I'm only here to promote a business yet never mentioning the name of the business must mean I'm even crap at that :lol:

It seems some who liked to live in ignorant bliss aren't very happy when someone challenges their ideas using proven facts. I can't see how it would benefit someone who asked a question to receive a half a*sed answer or an answer that was actually incorrect. When I put forward a detailed answer with verifiable facts for those who want to test the results for themselves to decide who is correct when the answers to question differ widely, I get attacked for waffling on with long posts confuse

I guess those that wanted to spread their disinformation and can't provide any back up for it need to resort to different tactics

T1 Terry

yobarr · Guru

T1 Terry wrote:
blaze wrote:
I don't know how he runs a business, seems to spend so much time on here answering questions
cheers
blaze
Don't let facts and common sense get in the way of a good attack plan Claiming I'm only here to promote a business yet never mentioning the name of the business must mean I'm even crap at that :lol:
It seems some who liked to live in ignorant bliss aren't very happy when someone challenges their ideas using proven facts. I can't see how it would benefit someone who asked a question to receive a half a*sed answer or an answer that was actually incorrect. When I put forward a detailed answer with verifiable facts for those who want to test the results for themselves to decide who is correct when the answers to question differ widely, I get attacked for waffling on with long posts I guess those that wanted to spread their disinformation and can't provide any back up for it need to resort to different tactics
T1 Terry

Keep up the good work,Terry.Some of us understand,and appreciate your efforts.Cheers.

Ron-D · Guru

the Some us seems to be yobar biggrin you must have his panels or you like being brainwashed.you have not got a very big post count maybe you could take a leat out of terries book .

-- Edited by Ron-D on Thursday 6th of June 2019 05:03:25 PM

Ron-D · Guru

Terry you would not get away with naming your business especially people like you that dont pay for advertising here to support the forum,why should you people can easily contact you by p/m ...

yobarr · Guru

Ron-D wrote:
the Some us seems to be yobar you must have his panels or you like being brainwashed.you have not got a very big post count maybe you could take a leat out of terries book .
-- Edited by Ron-D on Thursday 6th of June 2019 05:03:25 PM

I wouldnt know Terry from a bar of soap,but I quickly established that he knows what he is talking about.I do not have his panels,and I dont even know from where he hails.As for me not having a very big post count,perhaps that is because I post only when I have something positive to contribute to a discussion? Just saying.Safe and happy travels to all.Cheers

Pradokakadudavid · Senior Member

I spoke to some guys at my local caravan parts shop today (Pilgrims) about this issue and he recommended a device (can't recall what it was called) that basically connected the negative and positive poles of the lithium batteries and had an amperage monitor so that when the power in the lithiums dropped to about 30%, this device stopped them discharging at that point to protect them from 100% discharge and possible damage. The device (sorry can't recall what it was called) cost $100 which seemed like cheap insurance to me. I will be checking this device out the next time I speak to Retreat, my caravan builders, to see what they say about them. But at the most basic of scientific levels, I would think that allowing lithiums to totally discharge (if that is possible) would not be a good idea, given their price (ouch). Who would have any power draw on the batteries if they were in long term storage!

T1 Terry · Guru

Hmmm...... unless it can be programmed for the actual capacity of the battery it was trying to protect, it would just be a voltage sensing device. I think EV Works sell something like that and the price sounds about right.

Those who have experienced actually using lithium batteries as a house battery system can tell you, voltage has just about nothing to do with the state of charge other than completely drained or full charged and then only accurately if measure at cell level rather than battery level.

So, unless there is a bit more sophistication in this device (and the price virtually excludes any possibility) the 30% can't be accurately measured, so it isn't really anything more than the battery protection unit that is already in a lot of caravans and motorhomes.

T1 Terry

EDIT: Is this the device? https://www.evworks.com.au/start-saver

-- Edited by T1 Terry on Friday 28th of June 2019 01:28:03 PM