I have a problem with old. How old is old. Is a person old when they reach 30? some 25yr olds may think so. So, who are the old people? An 80yr old may say that a 70yr is not all that old. Its a matter of perspective. and on that basis who is qualified to make that decision? Oh dear I think I am overthinking things here.

Its very sad when opponents of Tony Abbott fail read the entire content of his speech, what make it worse the half ar$ed left wing media blow it out of porportion.

The crux of their opposition to him revolves around him attacking one of the left wing darlings the Victorian Premier.

One important component ovelooked by the anti Abbott brigade was

In this climate of fear, it was hard for governments to ask how much is a life worth? because every life is precious, and every death is sad, but that has never stopped families sometimes electing to make elderly relatives as comfortable as possible while nature takes its course.

But I will stick my head up above the rampart for all and sundry to take a pot shot at because I am one the regards Tony Abbott a great Australian, his service to the people of Australia as a member of the parliment, as surf life saver and voulenteer fireman.

Kebbin wrote:

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Some peoples views are hard to forget, Tony was only ever a 2IC in the job, his office manager ran the show.

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 what a load of rubbish, Yes Peta Credlin was one of his senior advisors, but Tony the firefighter still ran towards the fire, Tony the surf lifesavor still entered the water to save a life, he was a better than most give him credit for......just ask those aborigional communities worked hard to help.

Magnarc wrote:

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Gundog, you very nearly got me crying in my soup mate. I guess we all need our heroes.

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 Who's your hero Magnarc? 

Sorry, Abbott is a has-been in Australian politics. Glorify him all you like but he was past his use-by date in the public's eye and nothing has changed there.