Free Wheeling Hubs.

Eaglemax · Guru

RE: Free Wheeling Hubs.

Possum3 · Guru

yobarr wrote:

Again I will ask you to explain to us how the many hundreds of thousands of Cruisers sold BEFORE the VDJ series arrived,managed to survive with the SAME REAR TRACK as the 79 has?

Yobarr you are failing to recognise the work done by a couple of clever Engineers from National Springs, Alexandria NSW. The sole reason for the formation of Old Man Emu (OME) was the propensity for old Cruisers to fall over. These guys went over to USA every year to set up suspensions for Baja Run.

Without aftermarket suspension modifications old cruisers had a bad habit of back wheels jumping sideways at highway speed, sometimes ending up Base over Apex.

yobarr · Guru

Eaglemax wrote:
Personally I'd look at the 2014-2015 Range Rovers but "nothing compares nor competes" right? zzzzzzzzzzz!!!!

"Nothing compares nor competes"...thanks Tony.Seems you have finally seen the light? And you might like to explain just how do these Range Rivers tow 3500kg and carry any weight? Can't be done.Cheers

Rob Driver · Guru

Yobar
I did not say that Toyota changed the rear track but I clearly said that due to the current build dimensions Toyota were too mean to provide the consumer with a vehicle of equal track width to provide the level of safety that a vehicle in excess of $90,000 would warrant.

This is what I wrote above

To claim that the rear track is not narrower than the front is actually laughable.

The fact is that Toyota were too mean to change the rear diff and subsequently widen the rear track to create some form of stability.

Probably ok while selling to the mining and construction industry.

They were never meant to be a highway cruiser.

So as you can see I did not say that the rear track has changed...I never have and never will.

You need to understand this, that Toyota decided not to widen the track on the rear of a 79 series ute in production which by design now causes the vehicle to become unstable when travelling on all but perfect road surfaces. This is fact as stated by many observers in the motor vehicle industry. As I also stated above, this anomaly has been commented on as topics on varying vehicle, caravan and off road forums. I know you have read these comments from many on these forums as you have participated on those same forums.

Iana and any others considering buying one of these vehicles has the rite to know this, particularly if they have asked a question on a forum.

You continually quote a 6 month waiting time for these vehicles but as of today on Cars Guide there are

From Cars Guide..

There are 409 vehicles for sale 28/11/20 of that 32 are new vehicles and 12 are demos.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/toyota/landcruiser/vdj79r-series

The rest are used vehicles of various configurations prices and conditions.

It's a shame that you cant see to modify your sanctimonious attitude which is totally unnecessary. It detracts from useful info that many others may provide but some dont wish to become involved for the fear of ridicule that may result.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

Regards

Rob

Rob Driver · Guru

yobarr wrote:
Eaglemax wrote:
Personally I'd look at the 2014-2015 Range Rovers but "nothing compares nor competes" right? zzzzzzzzzzz!!!!
"Nothing compares nor competes"...thanks Tony.Seems you have finally seen the light? And you might like to explain just how do these Range Rivers tow 3500kg and carry any weight? Can't be done.Cheers

This is what I mean. ^^^^^

Yobar it is a shame that you cant see to modify your sanctimonious attitude which is totally unnecessary.

Everyone has a rite to an opinion.

Regards

Rob

-- Edited by bentaxlebabe on Saturday 28th of November 2020 05:02:44 PM

iana · Guru

You guys are so funny, I just wanted to know about the free wheeling hubs.

yobarr · Guru

Possum3 wrote:
yobarr wrote:
Again I will ask you to explain to us how the many hundreds of thousands of Cruisers sold BEFORE the VDJ series arrived,managed to survive with the SAME REAR TRACK as the 79 has?
Yobarr you are failing to recognise the work done by a couple of clever Engineers from National Springs, Alexandria NSW. The sole reason for the formation of Old Man Emu (OME) was the propensity for old Cruisers to fall over. These guys went over to USA every year to set up suspensions for Baja Run.
Without aftermarket suspension modifications old cruisers had a bad habit of back wheels jumping sideways at highway speed, sometimes ending up Base over Apex.

Hi Possum...After many years in the bush,driving such vehicles,I am somewhat puzzled by these assertions.IF these cars were so prone,as you attest, to going "Base over Apex" (very diplomatic),you might like to explain why many hundreds of thousands of these vehicles were sold? Surely,if such a vehicle had a "habit of back wheels jumping sideways at highway speed",word would soon have got around about the alleged "dangers",with the associated negative influence on sales? Nah,didn't happen. And I would be most interested to hear how you can attest that there ever was a "propensity of old Cruisers to fall over".Furthermore,might I be so rude as to suggest that driving a Cruiser on public roads has little relevance to that vehicle's performance in a Baja Run? Two totally different situations.Cheers

-- Edited by yobarr on Saturday 28th of November 2020 06:44:57 PM

Possum3 · Guru

yobarr wrote:
And I would be most interested to hear how you can attest that there ever was a "propensity of old Cruisers to fall over".

Yobarr, I was reliably informed by the said engineers when they were doing design work to design aftermarket suspension for Toyota owners in Australia. I only got involved as they need some extra engineering input. It was after the work done on Toyota springs that they started designing suspensions and setting up Baja cars.

yobarr · Guru

bentaxlebabe wrote:
yobarr wrote:
Eaglemax wrote:
Personally I'd look at the 2014-2015 Range Rovers but "nothing compares nor competes" right? zzzzzzzzzzz!!!!
"Nothing compares nor competes"...thanks Tony.Seems you have finally seen the light? And you might like to explain just how do these Range Rivers tow 3500kg and carry any weight? Can't be done.Cheers
i This is what I mean. ^^^^^
Yobar it is a shame that you cant see to modify your sanctimonious attitude which is totally unnecessary
Everyone has a rite to an opinion.Regards.Rob
-- Edited by bentaxlebabe on Saturday 28th of November 2020 05:02:44 PM

Never have I disputed the "rite (right?) to an opinion",but always I will state only facts.Surely you would agree that any "newbie",for example,receives only facts? What is the point of giving people unrealistic expectations.LC200 safely towing 3500kg...can't be done.Cheers

P.S We seem to have drifted away from the OP's original question.Sorry Ian,but you might like to look at my PM?

-- Edited by yobarr on Saturday 28th of November 2020 08:17:08 PM

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

SA Police in regional areas ALL drive 79 series. 100% I reckon, and NT and WA as well from memory, but not 100% I don't think?
All community and outback SA ambulances are all Troopies.
SA police did try Range Rovers years ago, but they end for ended several and they were all eventually replaced with 'Cruisers.
I did not choose them, they did, and they continue to do so. Why would that be?
Cheers,
Peter

yobarr · Guru

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
SA Police in regional areas ALL drive 79 series. 100% I reckon, and NT and WA as well from memory, but not 100% I don't think?
All community and outback SA ambulances are all Troopies.
SA police did try Range Rovers years ago, but they end for ended several and they were all eventually replaced with 'Cruisers.
I did not choose them, they did, and they continue to do so. Why would that be?
Cheers,
Pete

Hi Peter...I,too,wonder why that would be? Who knows? Perhaps too much common sense was involved in their decision? Common sense seems to be conspicuous by its absence in this thread? Cheers

-- Edited by yobarr on Saturday 28th of November 2020 07:33:03 PM

iana · Guru

Perhaps not the best time to buy, a new 79 series LC to be released in 2021, looks like a Dodge Ram. S/H prices will then plummet.

2021 Toyota Land Cruiser 79 Price, Redesign, Release Date | PickupTruck2021.Com

-- Edited by iana on Saturday 28th of November 2020 08:47:36 PM

blaze · Guru

yobarr wrote:
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
SA Police in regional areas ALL drive 79 series. 100% I reckon, and NT and WA as well from memory, but not 100% I don't think?
All community and outback SA ambulances are all Troopies.
SA police did try Range Rovers years ago, but they end for ended several and they were all eventually replaced with 'Cruisers.
I did not choose them, they did, and they continue to do so. Why would that be?
Cheers,
Pete
Hi Peter...I,too,wonder why that would be? Who knows? Perhaps too much common sense was involved in their decision? Common sense seems to be conspicuous by its absence in this thread? Cheers

-- Edited by yobarr on Saturday 28th of November 2020 07:33:03 PM

all to do with price point for fleet

cheers

blaze

Whenarewethere · Guru

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
SA police did try Range Rovers years ago, but they end for ended several and they were all eventually replaced with 'Cruisers.

The executive will keep the dogsbody in its place with corrugations!

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

blaze wrote:

all to do with price point for fleet

Needs to do the job first. Does not matter what the price is if it does not do the job.

Cheers,

Peter

rgren2 · Guru

Freewheeling hubs for the 79 arent expensive, the auto ones are less than $1k and manuals can be obtained for sub $300.