My Observation

Recoup · Guru

My Observation

Whenarewethere · Guru

Same at Harris Farm & a couple of independent green grocers we visit.

erad · Guru

A trick to open the Aldi plastic bags - use the trolley wipes to moisten the top of the bag, and then pull the bag apart at the top. Easy peasy...

Recoup · Guru

erad wrote:
A trick to open the Aldi plastic bags - use the trolley wipes to moisten the top of the bag, and then pull the bag apart at the top. Easy peasy...

Yes that what I did , but tell the lickers biggrin biggrin

oldbloke · Guru

I've noticed this too. But every time someone touches something there is a potential to spread the virus. There is no way to guarantee a sterile shopping environment. Its just about minimising risk NOT eliminating.

Most masks warn are only about 50% effective. But that's 50% less infected vapour floating around and if breathed in, 50% less sucked in, perhaps further reducing the seriousness of the illness.

oldbloke · Guru

I've noticed this too. But every time someone touches something there is a potential to spread the virus. There is no way to guarantee a sterile shopping environment. Its just about minimising risk NOT eliminating.

Most masks warn are only about 50% effective. But that's 50% less infected vapour floating around and if breathed in, 50% less sucked in, perhaps further reducing the seriousness of the illness.

Dougwe · Chief one feather

erad wrote:
A trick to open the Aldi plastic bags - use the trolley wipes to moisten the top of the bag, and then pull the bag apart at the top. Easy peasy...

Here I have been struggling opening the stupid bags when all I had to do was get a trolley wipe furious cry

Thanks for the tip erad, great tip too

bgt · Guru

Life is full of risks. It's how you mage them that counts. But consider how you got to the supermarket in the first place. Did you drive? More folks killed on the road than the virus. Walking across the supermarket car park in itself is a real challenge at times. Did you use the toilets while shopping and use the door handle to get in and out? Did you have a cappuccino while out? Was the cup cleaned properly? How about the table. And how did you pull the chair out to sit down? Get my point. Even sitting at home isn't risk free. The wife could come out at anytime and ask you to climb a ladder to change a light bulb. I know of 2 folks who died from falls from ladders. You could stay in bed under the doona. Get a blood clot from lack of activity.

I gab a wet wipe on the way in. Use to to polish the trolley handle and wipe my hands. Then pick up all sorts of things that got on the shelves because someone put them there with their hands. But were their hands clean?

My point is that life is full of risks. Hang on I already said that.

Santa · Guru

bgt wrote:
Life is full of risks. It's how you mage them that counts. But consider how you got to the supermarket in the first place. Did you drive? More folks killed on the road than the virus. Walking across the supermarket car park in itself is a real challenge at times. Did you use the toilets while shopping and use the door handle to get in and out? Did you have a cappuccino while out? Was the cup cleaned properly? How about the table. And how did you pull the chair out to sit down? Get my point. Even sitting at home isn't risk free. The wife could come out at anytime and ask you to climb a ladder to change a light bulb. I know of 2 folks who died from falls from ladders. You could stay in bed under the doona. Get a blood clot from lack of activity.

I gab a wet wipe on the way in. Use to to polish the trolley handle and wipe my hands. Then pick up all sorts of things that got on the shelves because someone put them there with their hands. But were their hands clean?

My point is that life is full of risks. Hang on I already said that.

Couldn't agree more Bgt, life certainly is fraught with risk, the important thing is to be able to recognise and take action to minimise the pitfalls, some of us are good at this and with a bit of luck live to a ripe old age, others sadly don't seem to have a natural instinct for self preservation.

Charles Darwin got it right with his thoughts on natural selection. wink

Gundog · Guru

Lets look at the chain of events of a humble apple, it hangs from a tree along come the fruit picker into his picking bag until its full, empty the bag into a bin, the bin is transported to the packing shed,in the packing shed it may be handled by a quaility inspector, the grader, the sorter into bags or bins. which go to market or to the Aldi wharehouse for breakdown to smaller quanties for distribution to stores, at the store the fruit and veg person places them on the self for you the customer.

That nice little red apple may haver been handled by many other shoppers before you choose it, and I can bet you a doller it has not been sanitized after every contact.

A similar chain of events occur with every item in all stores, if you that worried you better sanitize every it before you put it in your shopping bag.

Whats your solution, if you want to go shopping in a many stores inc supermarkets in SA you have to scan the QR code before you enter, thats all fair enough. But how does some one go shopping who has no phone or a mobile device which cannot scan codes ?

bgt · Guru

Am I skeptic? Maybe. But I bet Orson Wells couldn't have dreamed up this for his Big Brother. QScans may seem like a good move at the moment. I see the logic in them. And the safety. But who will revoke the QScan requirements? Will governments find some excuse to keep them? Will your every move be tracked by some big corporation based overseas? Will they sell that information? Will the police use it to prove or disprove a case?

Yes call me skeptic. But from my experience with them every second one of them doesn't work.

msg · Guru

Lol I don't have a phone that works with them.

msg · Guru

We oldies could plead that we left our phones at home. Like I do most of the time. I always forget it or forget to charge it.

DeBe · Guru

If you dont use a Q code, then on entering the shop you are suposed to write your name & telephone number on a sheet suplied. Or the shop owner does. Here in SA the police have been checking shops & have fined a few that havnt been doing it.

-- Edited by DeBe on Wednesday 3rd of February 2021 01:49:36 PM

msg · Guru

Yes but you only need to put your first name and phone number on the list. Not much to steal there.

msg · Guru

I just had a rethink about that. Interested parties with a phone number database could match the number. Thats what they do isn't it match various small bits of info and put them all together.

Santa · Guru

bgt wrote:
Am I skeptic? Maybe. But I bet Orson Wells couldn't have dreamed up this for his Big Brother. QScans may seem like a good move at the moment. I see the logic in them. And the safety. But who will revoke the QScan requirements? Will governments find some excuse to keep them? Will your every move be tracked by some big corporation based overseas? Will they sell that information? Will the police use it to prove or disprove a case?

Yes call me skeptic. But from my experience with them every second one of them doesn't work.

G'day bgt.

I suspect your referring to the fictitious character Big Brother in George Orwell's novel "Nineteen Eighty Four" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_%28Nineteen_Eighty-Four%29

And whilst we're being pedantic, the spelling is sceptic. wink

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bgt · Guru

Santa I suggest you have a check. Or should that be cheque?

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/skeptic

or take a pick.

dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/skeptic

TheHeaths · Guru

Skeptic is the American spelling of the word.

Possibly based on the Greek root word, spelled with the letter k, rather than the Latin root word, probably used by the English, spelled with the letter c.

That aside, it has been a long time since something has spawned so many conspiracy theories, and tin foil hat moments, as Covid19. When it combined with Trumps unusual approach to the Presidency and the truth, it created a perfect storm for discussion and disagreement between people.

-- Edited by TheHeaths on Wednesday 3rd of February 2021 05:56:50 PM