Hot potato subject!!!

When you look at the figures, without the emotion, there's a story to be told. Most of Australia's deaths come from 2 stuff ups. Ruby Princess and the Vic hotel stuff up. So roughly all but 80 of Australia's deaths come those 2 events. Then look at the 8o deaths. The vast majority of those deaths come from aged care facilities. Again with breaches in the covid plans. So what does that leave? It means that the population of 25 million have been 'shut down' because of 'covid security' stuff ups.

It seems the various authorities in Australia, regardless of the political party, haven't been able to organize much more than a chook raffle. They used a scare campaign to influence a political goal. They told us repeatedly how dangerous covid was/is. Yet they avoided telling us that 99% of covid cases weren't a real health threat.

Covid is/was real. It was dangerous. But not to 98% of the population. So are those 98% happy to be controlled because the authorities couldn't protect the 2%.

History will decide. So may the voters at the next election. But IMHO the response was way out of proportion to the threat. From day one they knew who was vulnerable. Yet they impossed restrictions on everyone rather than putting a greater effort into protecting the vulnerable. My fear now it that many folks think the vaccine is the silver bullet. The vaccine won't stop the spread. It just protects you from the worst of the symptoms. So will lock downs continue while covid still spreads or will lock downs end when ??????

When there is a run on toilet rolls every time a premier mentions lock downs I querry the ability of much of the population to think logically.

And FWIW I'm in the vulnerable group and have already been told by my specialist to get the vaccine asap.

-- Edited by bgt on Wednesday 17th of February 2021 12:33:17 PM

Is it a con job, you ask.
How about you ask the families of the 2.24 million who have died so far what they think!

Stay safe everyone
Hendo

Who said it was a "con job"?

Covid needs to be put into perspective. Some will argue that too much was done while others say not enough was done. No worries from me if folks have different views on the subject. Just respect others can have a differing view. But what about malaria? It kills almost half a million folks every year. That's every year. Where's the global reaction to that? Or is it that malaria doesn't affect 1st world countries like covid has? Or is it that the big companies can make a zillion dollars on a covid vaccine for countries who will pay for a vaccine. Poorer countries with a malaria problem have no money to pay for a vaccine. Perspective? Over reaction?

bgt wrote:

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But what about malaria? It kills almost half a million folks every year.

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Ah! Be fair. They're people from the Third World.

[Jeez! Do I need to say this? Probably! SATIRE]

The way I see it its not really the lock downs or masks or social distancing. It's the inconsistency that is getting up folks noses. When you can't get an agreement on what is a 'hot spot' what hope is there? When the AFL could pack their bags and move to Queensland, Queenslander's scratch their heads. When tennis players in Melbourne are classified as essential works then folks get really pee'd off. While a tennis tournament in Swan Hill was closed down. And movie stars get preferential treatment because they 'bring money into the state'. When a state leader and all his ministers have amnesia. It wears very thin.

The upside that I see is that 'most' folks are now aware of social distancing. We wash our hands more. Masks are now 'accepted'.

Just give us reasonable rules and stick to them.

Tony Bev wrote:

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My opinion is that all things considered

Australia has taken the correct road, to beat the un-seen/un-heard/un-smelled enemy of mankind, which had been named Covid-19

Our economy is in a better place, than many other countries, of the world

Some other countries who, for whatever reasons, had decided that it was to be business as usual, was one of the main (if not the main) reason for the virus mutating.

Some countries gambled, that a vaccine would be found, in time
I hate to think what would be happening now, if we had not managed to make a vaccine

We did have certain people in Australia, pushing their own wheel barrows, for their own reasons
I do recall a private citizen trying to crack open the West Australian, hard border
I also recall the Australian leader of the day, assisting him

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 Too late to edit post, but some new info, has just come to my attention

The snip says it all

Health authorities in England have identified 38 cases of a new coronavirus variant that has a key mutation thought to reduce the effectiveness of vaccines, the UK government says.

Link below

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-17/new-coronavirus-variant-found-in-the-united-kingdom/13162548

STRETCH ARMSTRONG wrote:

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All l can say is we are bl@#$y lucky to live in Australia.

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Hope you are well, and happy Andrew

STRETCH ARMSTRONG wrote:

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All l can say is we are bl@#$y lucky to live in Australia.

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Been saying that for months.

Yes the gov stuffed up a couple of things. But got it right 90% of the time.

 I'm ok with that.

28900 infections and sadly 909 deaths.

No consolation to the 909 people who died but these figures reflect the excellent job Australia has done in controlling the virus.

In 2019 we had 934 deaths related to flu.

I hope Tony Lee's comment was tongue in cheek if not i find it most offensive and having done a bit of travel overseas in my opinion this country is the best place i have been so i am with Santa feel free to pack up and go

Eye rekon ee must be stuck in new zealand :) (umour)

-- Edited by peter67 on Friday 19th of February 2021 06:24:42 PM

-- Edited by peter67 on Friday 19th of February 2021 06:25:17 PM

I think Tony LEE was being ironic/sarcastic.

As for me, I have lived in several countries and my impression is that Australians have a lot to learn about other societies. I can list lots of problems with this country, and there are aspects of it which I despise. In my view Australia may be the "least worst" option, but I wouldn't dignify it by calling it the best. I prefer to think of myself as a world citizen, without nationalistic biases. If more people thought that way, there would be a lot less conflict. If you've never travelled, then at least read the news services from other countries, especially those stories which pertain to Australia. That should give you a more objective perspective.