Australian Canned Goods

msg · Guru

Australian Canned Goods

Tony LEE · Guru

I dont buy Thai prawns and I don't buy canned fish with Thailand written on the label because of reports of slavery on boats operating out of Thailand.

Don't like tuna anyway so that is no loss. Lot of John West is packaged in Asia so that is off the menu too.

Paramount Wild Alaska pink and red salmon, dolphin friendly, Australian company marketing it and product of Alaska is what we buy.
If I could find frozen Alaska salmon here I would get that too, but seems only Tasmanian farmed salmon is available and they are not exactly leaders in responsible practices. No choice so I do buy it.

(given the claims of the last bit of that email from safcol, it is pretty obvious that their product is not sustainably sourced)

-- Edited by Tony LEE on Friday 19th of March 2021 07:22:41 AM

peter67 · Guru

Ian Urbina wrote a book recently called 'The Outlaw Ocean' it makes harrowing reading, particularly when it comes to crewing boats.

msg · Guru

Or, I took it to mean that the tuna that is available is sent overseas as sushi tuna, where they get premium prices.

Its sad that living in a country surrounded by ocean we can get little or no fresh seaford. Except fish that is grown in filthy waters and under disgusting practices overseas or farmed fish whose origins are far from desirable. Even Barramundi comes from overseas.

peter67 · Guru

There was a write up in our West Aussie paper years ago about farmed fish in Asia. Stinking muddy pools and DDT and other poisons.

Gundog · Guru

Canned Fish or anything canned other than Baked Beans or Spagetti is not on our shopping lists

Frozen is Ok, but Fresh is Best

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

msg wrote:
Its sad that living in a country surrounded by ocean we can get little or no fresh seaford. Except fish that is grown in filthy waters and under disgusting practices overseas or farmed fish whose origins are far from desirable. Even Barramundi comes from overseas.

There is plenty of fresh (never frozen) fish available from markets in Oz.

Barramundi is farmed in every state in Australia except Tasmania.

Cheers,

Peter

Plain Truth · Guru

msg wrote:
Or, I took it to mean that the tuna that is available is sent overseas as sushi tuna, where they get premium prices.

Its sad that living in a country surrounded by ocean we can get little or no fresh seaford. Except fish that is grown in filthy waters and under disgusting practices overseas or farmed fish whose origins are far from desirable. Even Barramundi comes from overseas.

msg,you are having us on.This is our fresh fish market,all Australian produce.

peter67 · Guru

I think msg was talking about canned fish.

Derek Barnes · Senior Member

We recently holidayed in Port Macquarie and expected to be able to get lots of lovely fresh fish and seafood. The local fish shop however only had overseas sourced seafood and only one or two local fish products. We also noted that on our last holiday at Eden there was no local fish or seafood anymore. The nearest supplier of local fish and seafood was at Merimbula (We bought some of the Merimbula produce at a "Mr Whippy" like van which visited our caravan park in Eden).

msg · Guru

Thats my experience also Derek.

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

peter67 wrote:
There was a write up in our West Aussie paper years ago about farmed fish in Asia. Stinking muddy pools and DDT and other poisons.

I saw a show on TV where the sewage output was directed into the prawn or fish farm somewhere overseas. We don't by any fresh fish unless it's from Australia.

msg · Guru

www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/toxic-tuna-daily-telegraph-investigation-reveals-the-smelly-and-messy-conditions-at-thai-tuna-factories-linked-to-poisoned-fish/news-story/a9821f34af7ba3dc4e666ec4f8ce224a

msg · Guru

Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
peter67 wrote:
There was a write up in our West Aussie paper years ago about farmed fish in Asia. Stinking muddy pools and DDT and other poisons.
I saw a show on TV where the sewage output was directed into the prawn or fish farm somewhere overseas. We don't by any fresh fish unless it's from Australia.

There is no option Buzz for canned fish. Its all canned in Thailand.

Greg 1 · Guru

I don't even buy Australian farmed fish. Have you eaten farmed Barramundi from Cone Bay? Although it's salt water bred, it tastes completely different from wild caught salt water Barra which is delicious. Wouldn't think it's the same fish. I think it's the muck they are fed. Farmed tastes to me muddy and slushy.

Clarky 1 · Senior Member

Greg 1 wrote:
I don't even buy Australian farmed fish. Have you eaten farmed Barramundi from Cone Bay? Although it's salt water bred, it tastes completely different from wild caught salt water Barra which is delicious. Wouldn't think it's the same fish. I think it's the muck they are fed. Farmed tastes to me muddy and slushy.

A little off the original topic but I have found that the farmed Kingfish if compared to the wild variety is fatty and softer flesh as well.

Like some others, we buy very few items of tinned food. I dont mind baked beans but even the spaghetti is a bit plastic tasting to me.

Warren-Pat_01 · Guru

We have no issues with eating farmed black tiger prawns - the technology was developed by AIMS. We cannot keep taking from the wild at the rate we & everyone else is.
Did you know that 75% of the fish we buy is imported - but after seeing the conditions of the fish farms in Vietnam, I think you'd have to be careful. Basa is the most common fish imported - it has white flesh & is cheap.

Coles is a significant buyer/seller of the farmed tigers - a contract that prevented the grower from going under. I've also seen the prawns in Woolies on occasion. We bought some wonderful black tigers while staying in a caravan park at Port Palmerston, just south of Sarina. There was a significant prawn farm "down the back."

Here in QLD there were trial fish farms (barra) going well in the Hinchinbrook channel, again under development by AIMS but on February 2nd 2011 a violent cyclone (Yasi) put an end to the farm. Unlike the ones overseas, there was insignificant effluent coming from the farm.
AIMS = Australian Institute of Marine Science. Any visitors to Townsville can do a tour on Friday mornings - call 07 4753 4444. I'm a former now redundant, volunteer tour guide.

oldbloke · Guru

Yesterday had some nice tassie farmed salmon from aldi. (Frozen) Good price too. Will be adding it to the shopping list.

Greg 1 · Guru

Cone Bay fish farm is near Broome. It is not overseas. Prawns don't seem to have much change in texture or flavour from wild caught or farmed, but most fish seem to. At least to me any way.

Plain Truth · Guru

Sorry to say this,your taste buds are shot.

Greg 1 · Guru

Don't think so. Just know decent Barra when I taste it. Talk to a Kimberley local. They won't touch the farmed stuff.

msg · Guru

No farmed fish is a good as the real thing. My objection is, local companies are exporting all the fish overseas and this is all we are left with. Under the guise of sustainability. There would be plenty if "some" were not making obscene profits on what should be for the benefit of ALL Australians.

Rob Driver · Guru

I dont buy much canned food these days.

From labels, not much could be guaranteed Australian.
Canned food is ok in an emergency or a weekend away but I would rather try for the fresh if possible.

Rob and I tend to agree with farmed fish. It is nowhere near as good as our own wild catch from Aussie waters.
Barra is a classic example, and while our wild catch goes overseas we are left with second rate products.

Regards

Angie

msg · Guru

bentaxlebabe wrote:
I dont buy much canned food these days.

I don't buy much either. But it is a consideration if I break down whilst out in the middle of nowhere. We used to have good canning facilities here in Australia in which we packed all sorts of Australian produce.

Rob Driver · Guru

msg wrote:
bentaxlebabe wrote:
I dont buy much canned food these days.

I don't buy much either. But it is a consideration if I break down whilst out in the middle of nowhere. We used to have good canning facilities here in Australia in which we packed all sorts of Australian produce.

Sadly, those canneries have mostly closed now.

As some on here know, Rob has spent most of his working life in trucks, quite often away from home for long periods and in his younger days, no fridges in trucks.

His tucker box always had a supply of canned food, he carried a bbq plate and a billy and at times heated a tin of food by placing it in the engine area next to the turbocharger or in older days, the exhaust, if he needed a quick snack.

He is over tinned food and that is probably the main reason we avoid anything in a tin these days.

Regards

Angie

edit, Rob says take the label off before heating a tin on the turbo....:)

-- Edited by bentaxlebabe on Monday 5th of April 2021 12:50:16 PM