Certain Plastic to be abolished in future.

JayDee · Guru

Certain Plastic to be abolished in future.

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

JayDee wrote:
the fact that nearly all plastic material may be abolished,

Fact?

False news I reckon. Please provide a link.

Cheers,

Peter

bgt · Guru

Good luck carrying a glass phone around. Or maybe a glass table. How about a glass car interior?

Plastic isn't the problem. It's the pigs who drop it on the ground. When was the last time you seen a straw jump out of a container and make a break for it? Oh and those shopping bags all conspire to escape to the nearest river even before they have left the supermarket. How many Maccas bags have you seen on the side of the road. Did they wind down the window while the driver wasn't looking?

Australian hasn't a plastic problem when compared to SE Asia. Yet, like emissions, we are going to pay the price while others ignore all our grand gestures.

Let's all suck our drinks through a delicious soggy paper straw. When are folks going to get a grip on themselves. Hey hang on. Maybe that's the problem. They have got a grip on something. Problem solved!

Visy is a packaging company. They are simply covering all the market options.

msg · Guru

When was the last time you threw a straw, plastic bottle or shopping bag in the ocean or a river or a creek? Going by the big clumps floating around you must have emptied a truck load every few minutes every day last year.

Personally, I don't think I have ever done it.

I dutifully always separate it into my yellow bin each fortnight or put it in a bin.

The amount of garbage dropped by laziness or accidentally would not account for all that goes into the oceans.

All I can think is, something has happened to the garbage, we have so dutifully separated into bins after it has been picked up by the relevant authorities.

And so, just to make someone feel good, and inconvenience and cost to citizens we will ban plastic.

How about we try to curb the habits of the real offenders.

Whenarewethere · Guru

A lot of the high end phones are glass front & back.

bgt · Guru

msg I believe most of the huge plastic 'islands' floating around come from the big Asian rivers.

Tony LEE · Guru

Some of the problem is a lot of the "dutifully separated" plastic is actually a recycling contaminant eg shopping bags

Craig1 · Guru

The first 20-30km away from a town boundary pretty well tells part of the sad story, lots of all sorts of empty containers. You probably dont realize where it all goes once rain hits.

msg · Guru

Agree bgt.

I wouldn't think many would put their plastic bags into recycling. Therefore they would go into normal garbage headed straight for landfill.

You know, I have been calling into roadside stops etc for about 10yrs. I have been around Australia, down the middle, western Queensland, Western NSW and up and down the Hume and have never come across any large quantities of empty containers. Are you saying that the rain that came through in the week prior to my visit conveniently washed it away and into the rivers etc. About the only real issue I came across were the truck tyres.

peter67 · Guru

bgt wrote:
Good luck carrying a glass phone around. Or maybe a glass table. How about a glass car interior?

Plastic isn't the problem. It's the pigs who drop it on the ground. When was the last time you seen a straw jump out of a container and make a break for it? Oh and those shopping bags all conspire to escape to the nearest river even before they have left the supermarket. How many Maccas bags have you seen on the side of the road. Did they wind down the window while the driver wasn't looking?

Australian hasn't a plastic problem when compared to SE Asia. Yet, like emissions, we are going to pay the price while others ignore all our grand gestures.

Let's all suck our drinks through a delicious soggy paper straw. When are folks going to get a grip on themselves. Hey hang on. Maybe that's the problem. They have got a grip on something. Problem solved!

Visy is a packaging company. They are simply covering all the market options.

Good points, do you think wearing glass condoms will last as a virtue signalling fashion statement?

-- Edited by peter67 on Friday 19th of March 2021 07:05:26 PM

bgt · Guru

Peter67 a glass condom would cut a few down to size!

Plain Truth · Guru

So where does our recyclable plastic waste that we so carefully put in our yellow bin go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqrlEsPoyJk

Craig1 · Guru

P T, we have banned export of recycle since then?. There is also a company in Albury that makes assorted Farm Fence posts from hay wrapper type material.

bgt · Guru

Some years back in Texas a company started to make railroad sleepers out of recycled plastic. They passed all the tests. Performance and cost. But it was easier to keep making concrete ones. Attitudes have to change along with expectations.

peter67 · Guru

PT I believe we sent most of it to China, but they don't take it any more.

msg · Guru

Then they let if float right back. and we paid for it.

Gundog · Guru

bgt wrote:
Some years back in Texas a company started to make railroad sleepers out of recycled plastic. They passed all the tests. Performance and cost. But it was easier to keep making concrete ones. Attitudes have to change along with expectations.

And there are still plenty of Red Gum Sleepers being milled in places like Koondrook.