Honi soit qui mal y pense

Possum3 · Guru

Discussion topic.

bgt · Guru

I know at CMCA rallies the toilet rolls disappeared way faster than folks could use them. Maybe there's a illness that is inflicting many folks. That's why they strip it from the supermarket shelves every time a politician says "lockdown". What would such an illness be called. Rollitis.

Dougwe · Chief one feather

What a load of crap, Possum.

Name and shame for him and others.

Reminds me of that disgusting moron that emptied his toot canister on side of road not that many moons back.

Dougwe · Chief one feather

bgt wrote:
I know at CMCA rallies the toilet rolls disappeared way faster than folks could use them. Maybe there's a illness that is inflicting many folks. That's why they strip it from the supermarket shelves every time a politician says "lockdown". What would such an illness be called. Rollitis.

There might be a jab in the bum for that illness.

peter67 · Guru

Sure is Doug...he's covered in tatts, long arms and goes by the name big bubba.

Possum3 · Guru

I was wondering about the first comment on Betoota's page - describing the difficulty in removing dispensers not just the loo rolls.

rgren2 · Guru

The Betoota Advocate is a tongue-in-cheek Newspaper, great for a laugh. There is a smigin of truth in its articles.

Teo · Senior Member

Hey rgren2.
Looks like the Advocate has struck again.
I remember a few weeks back someone trying to explain an off colour joke was satire. If they want real satire perhaps they should look up the Betoota Advocate.

Kebbin · Guru

That'll do me the Betoota has been around for years and you have no idea what they do.

Whenarewethere · Guru

We always use our own 4 ply king size paper. Don't want any accidents.

We are not prepared to risk it with public toilet paper.

peter67 · Guru

That is so funny.

Craig1 · Guru

that is putting a finger in/on it

Warren-Pat_01 · Guru

Is that the Betoota that I know of? Just along the road from Birdsville?
Seems to have suffered a rather dramatic change in climate! And the nomad looks like our PM - does he not?

Possum3 · Guru

The Betoota Advocate is an Australian satirical news website and digital media company that publishes articles on international, national, and local news. The site puts a comedic spin on current news topics and broader social observations. The site is based in inner Sydney, but takes its name from the deserted regional town of Betoota, Queensland, and purports to be "Australia's oldest newspaper".

Teo · Senior Member

Glad you worked that out Possum!!!

Possum3 · Guru

Teo wrote:
Glad you worked that out

Honi soit qui mal y pense - I was involved with published satire in early 60's.

Cupie · Guru

Possum3 wrote:
Teo wrote:
Glad you worked that out
Honi soit qui mal y pense - I was involved with published satire in early 60's.

Just for you (other) uneducated plebes This is what it means .....

Honi soit qui mal y pense

French Expression

Meaning	shame on anyone who thinks this evil
Literally	shamed be who thinks evil of it
Register	normal
Pronunciation		[uh nee swah kee mah lee pa(n)s]
IPA		[ ni swa ki ma li pas]

Usage notes: In French, honni soit qui mal y pense tends to be used ironically, to hint at hidden bad intentions.

The real question is What is the significance of 'Possum; AKA:- Ali El-Aziz Mohamed Gundawiathan'

-- Edited by Cupie on Tuesday 4th of May 2021 02:21:46 PM

Possum3 · Guru

Cupie wrote:

The real question is What is the significance of 'Possum; AKA:- Ali El-Aziz Mohamed Gundawiathan'
What is the question? The reference to Honi Soit? or the pseudonym Possum? The reference to Also Known As?

DMaxer · Guru

Honi Soit qui mal y pense is on the coat of arms in court houses in NSW above the bench. It is to do with the Royal Order of the Garter. Also in the High Court. Evil to those who think evil. Also the name of the Sydney Uni student paper.

dorian · Guru

Possum3 wrote:
Teo wrote:
Glad you worked that out
Honi soit qui mal y pense - I was involved with published satire in early 60's.

So you used to be a leftie? What changed?

BTW, here is the original article:

https://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/grey-nomad-feels-entitled-to-take-loo-roll-from-public-toilets-because-hes-paid-tax-all-his-life/

I was aware of this "paper", but I had forgotten about it. I'm now having a good laugh reading the other articles. I think I'll make it a daily routine. Thanks.

-- Edited by dorian on Tuesday 4th of May 2021 05:23:49 PM

Possum3 · Guru

dorian wrote:
So you used to be a leftie? What changed?

Definitely never a "lefty" or even close. Just Educated.

The Honi Soit reference was to Teo's stated assumption I had no knowledge of BA's origins.

Tharunka was UNSW's rag, to which I also contributed.

DMaxer , I should have known you would pick up on the Court Link.

-- Edited by Possum3 on Tuesday 4th of May 2021 06:30:08 PM

yobarr · Guru

Possum3 wrote:
dorian wrote:
So you used to be a leftie? What changed?

Definitely never a "lefty" or even close. JUST EDUCATED.

JUST EDUCATED Love it! Cheers

peter67 · Guru

I liked the gun control piece most. If you are above the age of ten and prone to violent behaviour AND slightly retarded the gummint will not let you own more than three air to air missiles at any one residence.

Cupie · Guru

Possum3 wrote:
Cupie wrote:

The real question is What is the significance of 'Possum; AKA:- Ali El-Aziz Mohamed Gundawiathan'
What is the question? The reference to Honi Soit? or the pseudonym Possum? The reference to Also Known As?

The reference to AKA Ali El-Aziz Mohamed Gundawiathan'

Possum3 · Guru

Back in the days when Government data was written on cards (in pencil) said Govt Departments could understand the nuance without difficulty, as prior to to 60's most of the population had Celtic or English ancestry - When computers became involved in matching data between differing sources, some problems arose in matching but as most heads of depts could overrule a missing apostrophe if their particular systems were unable to accept the punctuation or diacritical mark due to inadequate programming.

AKA Ali el-Aziz Mohamed Gundawiathan was generated as a pseudonym owing to the fact I was endowed with a Family Name containing an apostrophe - which many Govt Department's systems couldn't recognise - I.E. would not recognise, that other Depts printed surnames in upper case some deleted apostrophes and umlauts etc. The resultant of which Government documents ended up with differing apparent surnames.

As previously advised heads of departments allowed common sense to prevail by realising that the different "spellings" were a computer malfunction. Nowadays many people employed in said Government Depts are not of Celtic or British origins and are unaware of the role of grammatical or punctuation marks and treat differences as a totally different entity - they cancel documents and make it difficult to have said documents reissued.

Long story short all Govt Computers will accept; Ali el-Aziz Mohamed Gundawiathan, even though it has variances in upper and lower case letters an a grammatical mark that is not a letter. SARCASM.

dorian · Guru

Possum3 wrote:
As previously advised heads of departments allowed common sense to prevail by realising that the different "spellings" were a computer malfunction. Nowadays many people employed in said Government Depts are not of Celtic or British origins and are unaware of the role of grammatical or punctuation marks and treat differences as a totally different entity - they cancel documents and make it difficult to have said documents reissued.

The opposite is in fact true. My own family name has a diacritic, so I am well placed to understand the difficulties this presents in an AngloCeltic society.

Ironically it is the UK which now understands and accommodates such grammatical marks, as its former membership of the EU would have warranted. This is particularly evident in news and sports commentary. For example, Slavic surnames ending in "cic" or "ova" are still incorrectly pronounced as "chick" and "over" by most Australian commentators and news readers, but not by their UK counterparts.

In fact SBS, and sometimes the ABC, use diacritics in their articles, eg ...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-24/ash-barty-wins-again-aussie-becoming-wtas-big-game-player/100092728

This forum's software, OTOH, is too stupid to even render basic English punctuation marks correctly.

Cupie · Guru

Thank you Possom3 & Dorian for your detailed explanations.

Yet another step in the education of this AngloCeltic plebe.

littledick · Senior Member

Possum3 wrote:
I was wondering about the first comment on Betoota's page - describing the difficulty in removing dispensers not just the loo rolls.

Didn't seem too hard for "vandals" a few years ago at a Dubbo van park , canisters left all over the amenities floor, disgusting, weak management. furious

Dick.

Possum3 · Guru

dorian wrote:
Possum3 wrote:
As previously advised heads of departments allowed common sense to prevail by realising that the different "spellings" were a computer malfunction. Nowadays many people employed in said Government Depts are not of Celtic or British origins and are unaware of the role of grammatical or punctuation marks and treat differences as a totally different entity - they cancel documents and make it difficult to have said documents reissued.
The opposite is in fact true. My own family name has a diacritic, so I am well placed to understand the difficulties this presents in an AngloCeltic society.
Ironically it is the UK which now understands and accommodates such grammatical marks, as its former membership of the EU would have warranted. This is particularly evident in news and sports commentary. For example, Slavic surnames ending in "cic" or "ova" are still incorrectly pronounced as "chick" and "over" by most Australian commentators and news readers, but not by their UK counterparts.
In fact SBS, and sometimes the ABC, use diacritics in their articles, eg ...

I was not referring to News organisations, rather Govt Depts being unwilling/unable to distinguish Case and Diacritic in traditional Australian names - There is in modern Australia a tendency to accept an obvious "Foreign name" without questioning the apparent misspellings caused by case and diacritics, but any discrepancy on names of obvious English origins will not be accepted by some Government entities. - Many Govt Depts do cancel documents, that is why my AKA identity was created - "Pudding and Proof".

Whereas my first wife was Hungarian - When she entered Australia in 1956 all of her documents were entered into Australian Government files with English spellings and in fact they even totally changed the name given at her baptism to a similar English name.