Are you eligible for a compensation payout

Ivan 01 · Guru

Are you eligible for a compensation payout

oldbloke · Guru

Lol. Should have bought a Triton.

In the end all companies are about profit, stuff the customer.

Ivan 01 · Guru

oldbloke wrote:
Lol. Should have bought a Triton.

In the end all companies are about profit, stuff the customer.

You may very well laugh old bloke, I have a Triton. biggrin biggrin

oldbloke · Guru

Lol. It's horses for courses. No issues with mine.

Been ok.

Clarky 1 · Senior Member

I saw that report on the news tonight and I dont know wether it was just media hype but the female reporter stated that owners could receive $10500.00
in compensation.

That would buy a bit of diesel.

peter67 · Guru

If all owners claim they say Toyota could be up for 2.7b.

Whenarewethere · Guru

Ivan 01 wrote:
oldbloke wrote:
Lol. Should have bought a Triton.

In the end all companies are about profit, stuff the customer.
You may very well laugh old bloke, I have a Triton.

No issues with my 8 year old & my Sister's 9 year old reliable Land Rovers.

hufnpuf · Senior Member

peter67 wrote:
If all owners claim they say Toyota could be up for 2.7b.

That's the compensation money, but they stand to lose even more in lost sales. Their reputation is damaged by them continuing to sell vehicles they knew to be faulty. Buying a Toyota because it's reliable and won't give you trouble is no longer.... Things go wrong with mechanicals, but how you deal with them is important. You don't just keep on selling, knowing you're selling defective. nuh-uh. If I get another car, I won't be heading to Toyota, that's for sure.

yobarr · Guru

Clarky 1 wrote:
I saw that report on the news tonight and I dont know wether it was just media hype but the female reporter stated that owners could receive $10500.00
in compensation.

That would buy a bit of diesel.

Much ado about nothing, no doubt encouraged by lawyers who stand to benefit hugely from any payout. After all, it's only a good for nothing DPF unit that any mechanic worth his salt can sort in a very short time. And 'No' I will not elaborate as those who know the solution are not going to advertise the fact. Gets a bit sickening forever reading of someone wanting "compensation' for perceived losses from an actual non-event. I'll say no more because if I get going I'll be here all day. Put on your 'Big Boy' shoes and get over it. Cheers

DMaxer · Guru

If you bothered to read about the claimant and what he experienced and the issues he had with his vehicle you might understand why the Federal Court made the ruling in his favour. This decision leaves the way open for others who have also suffered loss to claim. The news reports were responsible for the sensationalism, The lawyers involved merely notified the general public that if they also experienced the same loss they may have an action. Unfortunately, like most other things, you know more than everyone else who may be qualified to make these assessments as you drive a truck.

yobarr · Guru

DMaxer wrote:
If you bothered to read about the claimant and what he experienced and the issues he had with his vehicle you might understand why the Federal Court made the ruling in his favour. This decision leaves the way open for others who have also suffered loss to claim. The news reports were responsible for the sensationalism, The lawyers involved merely notified the general public that if they also experienced the same loss they may have an action. Unfortunately, like most other things, you know more than everyone else who may be qualified to make these assessments as you drive a truck.

Do you ever READ posts, as opposed to look at them? Blame was not apportioned in my post, where I merely suggested that the action was "encouraged by lawyers who stand to benefit hugely". No mention of who's to blame. As always though, the lawyers will encourage the sheep to all get on the band-wagon, all screaming "Gimme gimme". Your persistent denigration of truck drivers is mildly nauseating in that you appear to consider that truck drivers somehow are less qualified to offer opinion on current topics than are self-opinionated lawyers? As previously posted, I am not the village idiot, and I am well capable of holding down many 'flash' positions, but I choose to drive Roadtrains simply because, at this stage of my life, it suits me perfectly. Not because I have no other option. You may have noticed, once you alighted from your high-horse, the slogan "Without trucks Australia stops"? Next time you're out socialising, and having a beer, or more likely a "Chardonay Darling" you might like to take the time to consider how that product got to your venue. Probably on a truck. The world needs truck drivers more than it needs lawyers, I'd suggest. Cheers

boab · Senior Member

Yobarr did you read about the claimant and what he experienced and the issues he had, I havent so unless you have your rant is not justified and because you have such one eyed opinions on so many subjects and carry on as if your opinions are the only opinions then you should expect a reply as you got and i have done plenty of road train work and i take no offence with what dmaxer said

dorian · Guru

Is Australian diesel any dirtier than the diesel sold in the EU or USA?

oldbloke · Guru

yobarr wrote:
DMaxer wrote:
If you bothered to read about the claimant and what he experienced and the issues he had with his vehicle you might understand why the Federal Court made the ruling in his favour. This decision leaves the way open for others who have also suffered loss to claim. The news reports were responsible for the sensationalism, The lawyers involved merely notified the general public that if they also experienced the same loss they may have an action. Unfortunately, like most other things, you know more than everyone else who may be qualified to make these assessments as you drive a truck.
Do you ever READ posts, as opposed to look at them? Blame was not apportioned in my post, where I merely suggested that the action was "encouraged by lawyers who stand to benefit hugely". No mention of who's to blame. As always though, the lawyers will encourage the sheep to all get on the band-wagon, all screaming "Gimme gimme". Your persistent denigration of truck drivers is mildly nauseating in that you appear to consider that truck drivers somehow are less qualified to offer opinion on current topics than are self-opinionated lawyers? As previously posted, I am not the village idiot, and I am well capable of holding down many 'flash' positions, but I choose to drive Roadtrains simply because, at this stage of my life, it suits me perfectly. Not because I have no other option. You may have noticed, once you alighted from your high-horse, the slogan "Without trucks Australia stops"? Next time you're out socialising, and having a beer, or more likely a "Chardonay Darling" you might like to take the time to consider how that product got to your venue. Probably on a truck. The world needs truck drivers more than it needs lawyers, I'd suggest. Cheers

Well, for someone with an IQ of 160 and top of their class in English I would have thought you would understand that a few spaces and paragraphs would make it readable.

-- Edited by oldbloke on Tuesday 21st of June 2022 08:10:09 AM

deverall11 · Guru

Did VW lose any real amount of sales after the debacle about false claims on polution.
Maybe in the short term but is forgotten and forgiven.
me thinks the same will happen with Toyota.

Do you really think the next person buying a Toyota will make an assessment on the
current class action and decide to buy another brand? Don't think so.
As Yobarr said, bottom line is all about lawyer making lots of easy money and
a 'feel good' thing for owners getting compensation.
Capitalism at work?

DMaxer · Guru

Have a look at the claim. It was one person who alleged he had been badly treated by the seller and that the product was defective. This was run in the Federal Court and court ruled that as a result of the defect in his car it had lost 17.5% of its resale value and therefore ordered damages in that amount. It was the media who ramped this up and alluded to every owner was entitled to these damages and then multiplied the damages by the number of cars sold and came up with 2.7 billion. I don't know how this equates to lawyers cashing in or making easy money. Obviously, this bloke's lawyer did a pretty good job taking on a huge company and getting this result for his client.

I don't denigrate truck drivers or any other occupation Yobarr. What I do find disturbing and annoying however is the fact that you hold yourself out as an authority on every subject and denigrate every view not held by yourself. You never miss an opportunity to tell the world you drive a big truck and therefore you know everything. You are a first class bore.

dorian · Guru

DMaxer wrote:
Have a look at the claim. It was one person who alleged he had been badly treated by the seller and that the product was defective. This was run in the Federal Court and court ruled that as a result of the defect in his car it had lost 17.5% of its resale value and therefore ordered damages in that amount. It was the media who ramped this up and alluded to every owner was entitled to these damages and then multiplied the damages by the number of cars sold and came up with 2.7 billion.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-07/federal-court-judgment-on-toyota-diesel-dpf-class-action/100973328

Simon Burnett from Balance Legal Capital -- the funder of the class action -- said the case was an excellent example of how litigation funders played a critical role in "facilitating justice for ordinary people".

It sure looks like a class action. I'm confused. Are you suggesting that every other Toyota owner will need to mount their own individual case for compensation?

-- Edited by dorian on Tuesday 21st of June 2022 10:18:40 AM

hufnpuf · Senior Member

deverall11 wrote:
Do you really think the next person buying a Toyota will make an assessment on the
current class action and decide to buy another brand? Don't think so.

Yes, me.

They kept selling it, knowing it was defective.

yobarr · Guru

DMaxer wrote:
Have a look at the claim. It was one person who alleged he had been badly treated by the seller and that the product was defective. This was run in the Federal Court and court ruled that as a result of the defect in his car it had lost 17.5% of its resale value and therefore ordered damages in that amount. It was the media who ramped this up and alluded to every owner was entitled to these damages and then multiplied the damages by the number of cars sold and came up with 2.7 billion. I don't know how this equates to lawyers cashing in or making easy money. Obviously, this bloke's lawyer did a pretty good job taking on a huge company and getting this result for his client.
I don't denigrate truck drivers or any other occupation Yobarr. What I do find disturbing and annoying however is the fact that you hold yourself out as an authority on every subject and denigrate every view not held by yourself. You never miss an opportunity to tell the world you drive a big truck and therefore you know everything. You are a first class bore.

This may well confuse you, but you certainly seem to know a fair bit about this " first class bore" which surely indicates that my postings are interesting enough to you to attract your undivided attention? How you have concluded that I " hold yourself (myself) out as an authority on every subject" is beyond my comprehension, as I simply offer an opinion. My opinion is no more relevant than is yours on most topics, the exception being weights. With weights there is no room for opinion. Your weights are right or they are wrong. Hope this logic is not too hard for you to understand, and not too boring for you? Cheers

oldbloke · Guru

yobarr wrote:
DMaxer wrote:
Have a look at the claim. It was one person who alleged he had been badly treated by the seller and that the product was defective. This was run in the Federal Court and court ruled that as a result of the defect in his car it had lost 17.5% of its resale value and therefore ordered damages in that amount. It was the media who ramped this up and alluded to every owner was entitled to these damages and then multiplied the damages by the number of cars sold and came up with 2.7 billion. I don't know how this equates to lawyers cashing in or making easy money. Obviously, this bloke's lawyer did a pretty good job taking on a huge company and getting this result for his client.
I don't denigrate truck drivers or any other occupation Yobarr. What I do find disturbing and annoying however is the fact that you hold yourself out as an authority on every subject and denigrate every view not held by yourself. You never miss an opportunity to tell the world you drive a big truck and therefore you know everything. You are a first class bore.
This may well confuse you, but you certainly seem to know a fair bit about this " first class bore" which surely indicates that my postings are interesting enough to you to attract your undivided attention? How you have concluded that I " hold yourself (myself) out as an authority on every subject" is beyond my comprehension, as I simply offer an opinion. My opinion is no more relevant than is yours on most topics, the exception being weights. With weights there is no room for opinion. Your weights are right or they are wrong. Hope this logic is not too hard for you to understand, and not too boring for you? Cheers

Yes, just an opinion. Of no more importance than anyone else here.

After many requests, you are yet to provide any form of qualification. You seem to think your opinion is of a higher standard than other members. If so, you will provide a qualification to prove so. If you can't provide a qualification then you are no better than anyone else here. Just a member, nothing more. No more.

-- Edited by oldbloke on Tuesday 21st of June 2022 05:50:05 PM

yobarr · Guru

oldbloke wrote:
yobarr wrote:
DMaxer wrote:
Have a look at the claim. It was one person who alleged he had been badly treated by the seller and that the product was defective. This was run in the Federal Court and court ruled that as a result of the defect in his car it had lost 17.5% of its resale value and therefore ordered damages in that amount. It was the media who ramped this up and alluded to every owner was entitled to these damages and then multiplied the damages by the number of cars sold and came up with 2.7 billion. I don't know how this equates to lawyers cashing in or making easy money. Obviously, this bloke's lawyer did a pretty good job taking on a huge company and getting this result for his client.
I don't denigrate truck drivers or any other occupation Yobarr. What I do find disturbing and annoying however is the fact that you hold yourself out as an authority on every subject and denigrate every view not held by yourself. You never miss an opportunity to tell the world you drive a big truck and therefore you know everything. You are a first class bore.
This may well confuse you, but you certainly seem to know a fair bit about this " first class bore" which surely indicates that my postings are interesting enough to you to attract your undivided attention? How you have concluded that I " hold yourself (myself) out as an authority on every subject" is beyond my comprehension, as I simply offer an opinion. My opinion is no more relevant than is yours on most topics, the exception being weights. With weights there is no room for opinion. Your weights are right or they are wrong. Hope this logic is not too hard for you to understand, and not too boring for you? Cheers
Yes, just an opinion. Of no more importance than anyone else here.
After many requests, you are yet to provide any form of qualification. You seem to think your opinion is of a higher standard than other members. If so, you will provide a qualification to prove so. If you can't provide a qualification then you are no better than anyone else here. Just a member, nothing more. No more.

Once again you've failed to actually READ and understand my post, and you have failed to note that I wrote that, on all topics except weights I merely offer an opinion. And I noted that my opinion is no more relevant than that of anybody else. However, I then noted that with weights there is no room for opinion. Your weights are either right or they're wrong. Indesputable! Your memory seems to have again failed you, as many times previously I have written on here that I have NO FORMAL QUALIFICATIONS regarding weights, but none is needed. It's simple physics, with my knowledge having been gained over many years. You don't need to be a Meteorologist to know that it's raining. Hope this helps you to understand? Also, I'm sorry, but I don't understand the relevance of your last few words "Just a member, nothing more. No more" Cheers

oldbloke · Guru

" I have NO FORMAL QUALIFICATIONS regarding weights".

Just confirms, you are far from "special". Mmm perhaps I'm wrong and you are, Mr IQ160.

Cheers Yoborr

oldbloke · Guru

Perhaps you would be better trolling the www.caravanersforum.com/.
Oh wait, they don't want you there do they?

Cheers

jegog · Senior Member

dorian wrote:
Is Australian diesel any dirtier than the diesel sold in the EU or USA?

There is no Australian standard for diesel. You get the cheapest diesel that the suppliers can get away with.

Ivan 01 · Guru

jegog wrote:
dorian wrote:
Is Australian diesel any dirtier than the diesel sold in the EU or USA?
There is no Australian standard for diesel. You get the cheapest diesel that the suppliers can get away with.

Do you have a link with that?

jegog · Senior Member

I must apologise.

My research was done in 2018 when I purchased a diesel vehicle.

I now see that the federal government made Fuel Quality Standards Regulations in 2019 and legislated a Fuel Quality Standards Act in 2020.

Sorry about that.