Soon to be Grey Nomad times in Qld - beware

Warren-Pat_01 · Guru

Soon to be Grey Nomad times in Qld - beware

Whenarewethere · Guru

It a decade since I had to put a key in a car. Hardly difficult to press the start button & have the key in your pocket.

RickJ · Senior Member

Whenarewethere wrote:
It a decade since I had to put a key in a car. Hardly difficult to press the start button & have the key in your pocket.

Hi WAWT,

I think you need to bring your self up to speed as far as how these out of control cretans are getting these cars.

Apart from how Warren above described above these @r$holes are breaking into homes and terrorising people or just breaking in and finding key fobs for cars.

They are skilled opportunists who prey on the basic and natural inattention of those unwary shoppers at car parks and service stations.

These organised gangs have a lot of the police force bluffed through the use of mobile cameras and cries of racism.

These people have the unfortunate support of some media outlets and various community groups.

I dont mention this to start a debate but more to indicate that those who terrorised and stole belongings and a car and are found and arrested are generally free to head out onto our streets and properties to do this same thing again in a couple of days time. A news report of an arrest really is of little value when it comes to the public expecting a favourable result.

It appears that the towns in NQ have just stood by and suffered these crimes without any REAL law enforcement being carried out mainly due to the old race card claiming lack of opportunity poor education, you know you have heard it all time after time and if not involving Townsville then it is another regional Australian town. I mention this purely for the reason of explanation to those who may suffer at the hands of these perpetrators as quite often they will be back so be extremely aware of their ability to retaliate. This is not something fabricated by me but has been information relayed by a police officer in the area.

These gangs have KILLED innocent people and are feared.

I have friend that need to travel to Townsville and at time Mackay and they are fearful to go to shopping centres service stations or even Hospital Car Parks.

To put this in balance the majority of us AUSTRALIANS live by our laws, put in place by our governments who were put in place by our people and these rogue groups are breaking those laws because they have a mamby pampy doo gooding so and sos who seem to need to recreate events of 270 years ago to provide this MINORITY of law breakers the right to just be released to re offend. ( This is why this is happening ) and this may not be fullyy realised by those from the southern states where these examples of blatant law breaking are not happening or more likely pale into insignificance due to the huge population and the way the media present news in those cities.

@Warren,

I cringed the other day when I witnessed a police patrol being so intimidated that they had to retreat initially to their vehicle and then scarper in that vehicle back to the police station.

It would be a safe bet that that gang responsible is still out there terrorising all of us.

As Warren has warned, it is coming up to the southerner influx and these criminal gangs arent isolated to Townsville and Mackay they are in every town now including the Whitsundays at times.

If I may issue another caution to travellers.

Be extremely aware when driving on the Bruce Highway as one of their favourite pass times is to home invade, steal cars, steal fuel and then race from Tville to Bowen or Mackay for thrills.

They drive like absolute lunatics with no regard for anyones safety. Some have actually killed other and themselves.

Many a journey regularly reveals these actions and from personal experience and they are frightening. For example on coming traffic means nothing to these cretans, even heavy trucks. One of these miscreants forced a truck as far left against a cutting and hit the truck which resulted in a death.

The Bruce Highway from Mackay to Townsville is dotted with wrecked cars which have been the result of these thefts.

So from my observation be very aware that even something like a handbag snatch or an aussalt for pocket contents quite often results in the theft of a vehicle as the key fob.
While WAWT and some others may think fobs are secure it is only offers security when not easily accessible to thieves and be aware it is your phones wallets and anything else of value that they will take to top up their already quite good Centrelink payment that many of them collect for searching for a job or some other fabricated lame excuse that we all just seem to hand out Willy Nilly.

I have not seen any figures YET on an increased numbers of caravan break ins but they are there and reported and they arent beyond using quite threatening measures of violence to get your key fob.

A very timely warning from Warren with the hoards of southern folk arriving in the north during the next couple of months.

I might ask at this time of this being a WARNING TO TRAVELLERS is that this situation is real and if this topic is turned into wether we adopt certain policies is not the point.
I ask Cindy to moderate this topic so as to only reflect the need and reason for the topic so that the current threats are clearly indicated to those ubsuspecting travellers. It would be terrible to have a report such as this removed because it becomes lost in the diatribe of what we as a country of Australians have all done wrong.

Thank you.

-- Edited by RickJ on Thursday 13th of April 2023 07:54:11 AM

Hitting the road · Senior Member

Well written Rick, and a timely reminder...thanks Warren. These times are a little unprecedented really, sure there has always been petty crime but is escalating to levels unseen in this country.
We are traveling North to Townsville and then West across to Katherine and then over over to Broome in a couple of weeks time...we will be very very aware of our security at all times...thanks guys.

Magnarc · Guru

Hi Rick, I think I can hear the sounds of the Flak cannons being calibrated, closely followed by a thread closure. For the record what you say is supported by the Townsville police therefore we can assume that what they say is correct. What to do about it is another matter. Warren and your good self are quite right to bring this to the attention of any of our members who may be travelling that way.

Gundog · Guru

I live in a Whitsunday Caravan Park, and regurally travel from the Whitsundays to Mackay and Brisbane via the Bruce Highway.

Yes there are numerous dumped vehicles on the Bruce Highway.

I have not seen nor heard of the criminal activity you have described occuring in the whitsundays particually the caravan park we live in, yet I do recall an incident a while back driving in the manner described. The individual was in a stolen car and managed to kill himself after he took out another vehicle just out of Proserpine.

Law and Order in an increasing issue in northern Australia, but its the Dorothy and Donny Do Gooder who live in affluent suburbs of the southern cities that have created the problem.

If I spoke about how I actually feel, my comments would be deleted, the thread would be closed and I would be banned forever.

Whenarewethere · Guru

RickJ wrote:
Whenarewethere wrote:
It a decade since I had to put a key in a car. Hardly difficult to press the start button & have the key in your pocket.
Hi WAWT,
I think you need to bring your self up to speed as far as how these out of control cretans are getting these cars.

In the 90s we installed laminated glazing & ballistic door after a few break-ins.

RickJ · Senior Member

Whenarewethere wrote:
RickJ wrote:
Whenarewethere wrote:
It a decade since I had to put a key in a car. Hardly difficult to press the start button & have the key in your pocket.
Hi WAWT,
I think you need to bring your self up to speed as far as how these out of control cretans are getting these cars.
In the 90s we installed laminated glazing & ballistic door after a few break-ins.

A quote advising attempts to slow a burglary is not what this topic is about.

Many visitors to the NQ and other areas are staying in rented accomodation, caravans and the like.

But you did really miss my point. Even when you partially quoted me you appear not to comprehend what I said particularly without other points I had indicated.

I am pleased you are safe in Manly.

-- Edited by RickJ on Thursday 13th of April 2023 10:05:27 AM

Cuppa · Guru

No denying the problem, but Rick I think your commentary is designed to whip up a real problem into something bigger. An excuse to have a go in the knowledge that you will get support. This is the stuff of vigilantism & does nothing to help. It reads as though you are wetting your pants at the opportunity to say what you've said & it's not the first time.

My view, FWIW & without any expectation that anyone will agree is that it is a symptom of a far larger & intractable problem which is not at all difficult to trace back to the ways in which aboriginal people have been treated & are still treated in Australia. The behaviours in question are totally unacceptable but simplistic retributionist solutions are never going to be a solution & largely just serve to reinforce the polarisation they intend to create.

That is all I have to say, you'll no doubt be pleased to read, as you have indicated that you don't wish to start a debate.
My reason for not wishing to say more is that I don't believe a racially respectful debate on this matter is a possibility here.

So I make my point & leave it at that.

The term you have used to describe these young people who are engaging in dangerous & criminal behaviour is not the derogatory term you intend - unless you believe they are Greek.

Mike Harding · Guru

Cuppa wrote:
No denying the problem, but Rick I think your commentary is designed to whip up a real problem into something bigger.

It would be hard for it to become bigger this side of civil war. If this were in Melbourne the news would comprise nothing else.

And I think your comments are always designed to absolve Aboriginal people from responsibility for their actions which is patronising and disempowering.

Crime figures Darwin

Crime figures Alice Springs

NB.

Darwin crime against the person per 100k = 3253

Alice Springs crime against the person per 100k = 11,246

peter67 · Guru

Perhaps if caning really was on the cards, parents of these youngsters might step in and take some responsibility for their child's actions. Not hard to do and very effective.

Hitting the road · Senior Member

Sensitive subject it seems...let's never forget what happened to poor Bill Leak for daring to reveal a sad truth of Parenting in this country by way of a cartoon...as Cartoonists often do.

Revealing or speaking truths has never been to incite any sort of prejudice or vigilante...but merely to raise awareness and to look for a solution...so how can exposing the truth behind a serious matter as a Poster here has be considered by some to be stirring up trouble?

Until some one in Power actually steps up and takes the lead, popular or not, in handling these matters I cannot see any improvement ever. Of course the good old Qld Government reckons they can solve the problem of the increasing numbers of Juvenile crime by raising the age at which a child can be convicted of a crime...seriously?

Mousey · Senior Member

I put off a Darwin trip because of these reasons this year.

dogbox · Guru

Cuppa wrote:

No denying the problem, but Rick I think your commentary is designed to whip up a real problem into something bigger. An excuse to have a go in the knowledge that you will get support. This is the stuff of vigilantism & does nothing to help. It reads as though you are wetting your pants at the opportunity to say what you've said & it's not the first time.

My view, FWIW & without any expectation that anyone will agree is that it is a symptom of a far larger & intractable problem which is not at all difficult to trace back to the ways in which aboriginal people have been treated & are still treated in Australia. The behaviours in question are totally unacceptable but simplistic retributionist solutions are never going to be a solution & largely just serve to reinforce the polarisation they intend to create.

That is all I have to say, you'll no doubt be pleased to read, as you have indicated that you don't wish to start a debate.

My reason for not wishing to say more is that I don't believe a racially respectful debate on this matter is a possibility here.

So I make my point & leave it at that.

The term you have used to describe these young people who are engaging in dangerous & criminal behaviour is not the derogatory term you intend - unless you believe they are Greek.

how can you make excuses for the bad criminal behavior that is going on? when i hear that the Aboriginals have been treated badly i think what could be the alternative?
1) what if the JAPENESE had of invaded Australia in the second world war who would they be complaining to now?
have you ever read what the Japanese did to the Chinese, Korean and other nations they over ran and most Japanese still deny it happened.
2) the stolen generation that is not unique to Australia that has been happening since man first went to war an made slaves of the
defeated it was not uncommon for gypsy/jewish/romany children to be relocated
3) how many jews did the Germans dispose of
4) how many German children had Russian fathers after they ransacked Germany (did read that 300,000 would be a fair estimate)
5) how many Ukrainian children were shipped off to Russia to be reeducated happening now
6) what happened in Africa and the middle east books have been written about that, the slave trade was barbaric
7) how many children were sent/relocated to Australia during WW2 from britian
8) Asia more stories there that are happening as we chat on the computer

yes, aboriginals have received some horrific treatment, but a lot of other people have suffer worst an still managed to survive and live prosperous lives.

-- Edited by dogbox on Thursday 13th of April 2023 04:38:32 PM

Webmaster · Guru

Thanks everyone for the input, but I think I’ll close this now. Clearly it is important for everyone to stay safe when they travel. However, we are keen to ensure that threads do not turn political or racist. Thanks.