goldenyears wrote:

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Need someones help thanks I have a small camper van tare 3.060 gvm 3.5 ton Had vehicle weighed was 3.7 ton 200 kg over weight Now heres the silly part Carrying 150 kg water 80kg fuel and 2 adults 150kg already overweight !!! Doesnt make any sense am I reading this correctly ???

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Hi Dave. If you could post a photo of the vans compliance plate, with vehicle ID blacked out, we may be able to help without hours of to and fro.
At first glance it does not look good, as it seems that you are already overloaded, but if you post the compliance plate we can give advice.                                                                       Maybe a GVM upgrade is possible, but as I said earlier, without the compliance plate details we are shooting in the dark, with hours of to and fro likely to achieve little.                          Possum has given good advice, which clearly shows that this has the capacity to become very complicated! Cheers

So this is the Chase model? I looked on their site and note they conveniently don't list the Tare. They list GVM as 3200, the same as original Ford Ranger (and that fits with your 300kg upgrade making it 3500kg).

If you really do have minimal stuff added it puts in question if the Tare was ever correct.

How could they sell these with only 140kg payload? With a few pots and pans, bedding and a single person you would be at capacity. Even with the upgrade to 3500kg you have to get the front/rear weights exactly balanced to meet that target. I doubt that would be achievable. And looking at the posture, even after the GVM upgrade it does look pretty tail heavy.

But what you describe does not seem to be 640kg. If it were me, I would empty out as much stuff as I could and take it to a weighbridge to see how close it is to Tare. Make sure you separately weigh the front and back axles.

Did you buy it new?

SUNLINER HA3  NOT CHASE

BOUGHT NEW IN 2017 ONLY DONE 42000KM

 

VEHICLE HAS BEEN BRILLIANT NO ISSUES JUST DECIDED RANDOMLY TO GET IT WEIGHED 

Incidentally, the tare mass of the Ford Ranger is reported to be 1725kg. Removing the tray would drop the tare by about 200kg, down to 1525kg.

With the tare mass of the Sunline Habitat HA3 reported to be 3060kg, the weight of the camper body would be in the order of 1535kg, which sounds realistic.

I suspect that goldenyears is carrying a lot more than he assumes. I think that only way for goldenyears to determine why the vehicle's current is 3.72t would be to weigh the vehicle again with ALL personal belongings removed. 

Mein wrote:

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Incidentally, the tare mass of the Ford Ranger is reported to be 1725kg. Removing the tray would drop the tare by about 200kg, down to 1525kg.

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Where did you see that? Bought in 2017 would make it a PX2. The brochure does not list Tare, but shows the lightest model was a 2.2L 4x2 Hi-Rider cab/chassis with 1659kg kerb weight (no tray). Very different from what the Sunliner brochure shows. Kerb weight is with with a full tank of fuel with no occupants.  For mine (XLT double cab) the plated Tare of 2051kg is 51kg less than kerb weight.

The Sunliner specs show 3.2L 4WD on a Hi-Rider base. The Ford brochure shows the lightest 3.2L 4WD cab/chassis had kerb weight of 1858kg (again, no tray). Maybe they had a special model built as the Hi-Rider with 3.2L and 4WD combination is not listed as an available model from Ford.

-- Edited by Are We Lost on Tuesday 18th of July 2023 07:08:44 PM

JUST GOOGLE SUNLINER HA3 IT COMES UP STRAIGHT AWAY 

THANKS FOR THE INPUT

Hi Dave. Must say that that is a great looking vehicle. Unfortunately, you have BIG problems with rear axle weight. 
Your rear axle carrying capacity has been upgraded to 1950Kg, but unfortunately you are carrying 2440kg on it, so 490Kg ( Half a ton!) overloaded on that axle.                                         Your front axle carrying capacity now is 1550Kg but youre not within coooee of that, with only 1280kg there.  
As with most GVM upgrades, this has achieved next to nothing, with only a miserable 100kg gain  on the rear axle. 

Problem! Firstly, you have to get rid of 220kg and then you have to try to relocate weight, forward.      

These ideas may ruffle a few feathers, but throw that heavy battery and get lithium. Forget the cost as there simply is NO comparison, both weight wise and performance wise.  

Try to get that as far forward as possible. When I initially had weight distribution problems I hung some heavy stuff under the bullbar, but your car is a lot lower than mine.  
Mein has kindly listed standard(?) fittings for your car, but without sighting the vehicle it is difficult to give useful advice.

In my opinion people who do what has been done to you should be lined up and shot. Unconscionable conduct, surely?
Possum is a great believer in the help offered by the Caravan Council of Australia (0409 865399) who may be able to give advice on both your legal rights and your possible remedies in this situation .They are based in Victoria.
For what it is worth, you have my sympathy, but there is little help I can offer.    
Where do you live and where can the car be viewed? Good luck. Cheers                                                                                                                    

-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 18th of July 2023 07:58:11 PM

Hobar how is it possible to get rid of over 200 kg impossible!! Lol

Need more than lithium lol !

Unfortunately, I think too many of these nice looking slide on/Ute type type motor homes end up being too heavy for the vehicles they are supposed to fit.

I suspect it would be nigh on impossible to get axle weights fine with a unit like this.

Shame, because they look a great unit for a single or couple to see this country. A trailer may be the only way to get it close.

-- Edited by TheHeaths on Tuesday 18th of July 2023 08:14:56 PM

Firstly we weighed everything inside vehicle food all the items tools bedding etc etc   was 120kg everything 

What i will be doing is move alot of stuff as far forward as i can and the jerry cans that carry 40kg of water only filled when realy necessary 

It will always be overweight and as for lithium unfortunately my redarc system doesnt handle lithium redarc manager 30 was upgraded in 2020 mine was from 2017 

thanks anyway for your info