Friend of mine is in the process of buying an Iluka. He has a spare carrying capacity of about 500kgs (ie above Tare of the vehicle) when the vehicle is listed as standard. The vehicles GVM is 4495KG which is the max you can have on a car licience. When he placed his order he asked for a 100ltr water tank in addition to the standard one which is 90ltrs. Later he got a call from the salesman saying he could not have the extra water tank as it was against the road law. My mate argued if I have 500kgs spare then put the tank in and I only have 400kgs spare. Told him they could not do it. BUT he could buy 5x20 litre gerry cans, put them in the back and fill tank when empty. Has anyone else heard of this? He said people on the Iluka web site complain the standard tank is too small for off the grid living for any length of time. Seems like BS to me but I stand to be corrected if someone can point me to the Reg, that limits water carrying capacity Thanks
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While fitting that extra tank may well leave the vehicle within the GVM, in practice this is hardly likely to be achievable. Add water (190kg), fuel (say 80kg), 2 passengers and personal items (200kg), LPG (18kg). That adds to 488kg, just 12kg short of the 500kg payload. The weight of that additional tank and fittings would also eat into the payload, so it's probably already exceeded.
Not possible to add more solar because it would be over the limit. Still need to add bedding, kitchenware, clothing, food and drink, etc, and all the possessions that would be taken on a trip.
Perhaps they are declining because it would be irresponsible to deliver a vehicle that could not be used to that capacity.
-- Edited by Are We Lost on Friday 21st of June 2024 02:32:25 PM
While fitting that extra tank may well leave the vehicle within the GVM, in practice this is hardly likely to be achievable. Add water (190kg), fuel (say 80kg), 2 passengers and personal items (200kg), LPG (18kg). That adds to 488kg, just 12kg short of the 500kg payload. The weight of that additional tank and fittings would also eat into the payload, so it's probably already exceeded.
Not possible to add more solar because it would be over the limit. Still need to add bedding, kitchenware, clothing, food and drink, etc, and all the possessions that would be taken on a trip.
Perhaps they are declining because it would be irresponsible to deliver a vehicle that could not be used to that capacity.
Our car has a 500kg payload. It's frightening how quickly that vanishes.
We did a spreadsheet, weighing every last item down to USB cables, mobile phones, floor mats, tent poles, tools etc.
We were over our payload & the car looked empty.
Payload vanishes.
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The SG (specific gravity) of water is 1kg/litre. Plus the weight of the tank and fitting. Like most RV dealers they have no idea of what he is talking about. Purchase your vehicle and have the tank installed by somebody rlse.
Like most RV dealers they have no idea of what he is talking about. Purchase your vehicle and have the tank installed by somebody rlse.
Not good advice. The reduced GVM to comply with easier licence requirements makes it a tight squeeze to stay within that GVM. For someone wanting to extend the freecamping capabilities that makes it harder.
If the quoted figure of 500kg available from Tare is correct, it would be quite difficult to remain inside the limit even as standard. A single person, maybe.
Reworking the earlier figures based on the van ex factory:
Fuel 80 Water 100 2 people with their personal items 200 LPG 18
That is close enough to 400kg. Now add kitchenware, bedding, towells, clothes, food and drink. That's it. Probably already exceeded the limit. No allowance for extra solar or battery, tools, spares, fishing/golfing, bikes or other toys and definitely no extra tank, let alone the water.
Perhaps I should be more specific. The +500kg is with all water and fuel tanks full as per their brochure which says weight is full loaded with all fluids.( I think he said it was about 565kg to be exact). He has no gas bottles as everything is electric or 12V DC. He is light so is his wife so only about 150kg so still leaves about 400kg spare. The thing is on the Winabaego web site they advertise extra water tanks so go figure? Dont need extra solar as there is about 400W on the roof. I have said to him when he collects the van this comming week to ask the salesman what Road rule he is relying on. I suggested we just put a tank on after and it would probably be cheaper than them doing it, But he is worried if there is a Vic Roads Reg and he is in violation of it his insurance would not cover him in the event of an accident. I still dont get it, and it seems no one here knows of any Road Regulation that would be in violation of either. Will update once he gets an answer.
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