Stupid bureaucracy

dorian · Guru

Stupid bureaucracy

Whenarewethere · Guru

If the other route stopped working due to road failure, it would open.

blackstump · Veteran Member

You left out this bullet point from the story.
"Residents say it currently takes an extra five minutes to drive in and out of the estate in Ellendale in Upper Kedron".
Five whole minutes ! Sounds like a non issue to me.

dorian · Guru

This bridge would have been subject to engineering oversight throughout its construction. Therefore, its opening should have been a formality. As for the extra 5 minutes, that's an extra 2.5km at 30kph.

blackstump · Veteran Member

dorian wrote:
This bridge would have been subject to engineering oversight throughout its construction. Therefore, its opening should have been a formality. As for the extra 5 minutes, that's an extra 2.5km at 30kph.

Agree, and if that's the worst anyone has to worry about at any given time, then life isn't too bad.

dorian · Guru

This example is a barometer, a microcosm, of Australian bureaucracy. It's the result of the conflux and conflict of local government, state government and private commercial interests. At this time, we have the leader of the opposition making policy on the run, and proposing to build 7 nuclear power stations, all on the basis of one sheet of paper. In that case we will have not only the previous 3 players, but an additional federal bureaucracy. Who are they kidding?

Whenarewethere · Guru

As I said if the other route stopped working...

'If the other route stopped working due to road failure, it would open.'

Many ways get government working for what they were put there for.

Change come slowly at quiet cost.

dorian · Guru

Q: Why did the bridge cross the road?

A: To get to the other side, bureaucracy notwithstanding.

peter67 · Guru

A man yells across a river, how do you get to the other side ?

The blonde yells, "you ARE on the other side"

Whenarewethere · Guru

dorian wrote:
Q: Why did the bridge cross the road?

A: To get to the other side, bureaucracy notwithstanding.

No, no... no. Brown paper bag!

Whenarewethere · Guru

& it fails anyway. Maccabiah bridge collapse is a first class example.

dorian · Guru

Whenarewethere wrote:
& it fails anyway. Maccabiah bridge collapse is a first class example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabiah_bridge_collapse

The Maccabiah bridge collapse was the catastrophic failure of a pedestrian bridge over the Yarkon River in Tel Aviv, Israel on July 14, 1997. The collapse of the temporary metal and wooden structure killed four and injured more than 60 Australian athletes and other team delegates who were visiting Israel to participate in the Maccabiah Games. One athlete died in the collapse and three died afterwards due to infections caused by exposure to the polluted river water. A subsequent investigation found that negligent shortcuts had been taken in the bridge's construction, mandatory permits and oversight had not been obtained, and the bridge's construction did not meet government requirements.

Five people, including the engineer who designed the bridge and the chair of the Tel Aviv Games Organising Committee, were convicted of recklessly causing death and injury. Four served prison sentences. The fifth, the committee chairman, served a term of community service and was reappointed to a highly-paid management position in 2002.

Greg 1 · Guru

Sometimes there is more to it than meets the eye.

Sometime ago the WA government let out a contract for a footbridge across the Swan River. The contractor, after receiving quotes from local firms elected to get the bridge steelwork made in south East Asia.
The delays in getting the steelwork down from there in the first place was making headlines and when it finally arrived the quality was very poor such that no engineering firm was willing to sign it off as suitable to erect.
The welding looked like chicken scratchings, there was no certification on the steel used and the whole structure an absolute disaster.
The government eventually had to step in and organised to have a local engineering firm build a new one from scratch, which should have happened in the first place since it was taxpayers money, and the bridge finally got built and was opened.
The other mess was cut up for scrap.

We also had the glass roof collapse at Curtin university here killing some young glaziers in the process all due to inadequate steel structure and poor quality despite the glazing contractor quering the amount of deflection they were getting in the steel structure when they loaded the roof and was assured it was OK.

In the case of the bridge in question, it maybe the case that someone has questioned its structural integrity and it is being investigated behind the scenes.
Not all things are as transparent as they seem.

Magnarc · Guru

Hi Dorian.

The fifth, the committee chairman, served a term of community service and was reappointed to a highly-paid management position in 2002.

Why am I not surprised?????????