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In the 1970s my parents ran the gradient away from the edge for the outside concrete deck (No prams were going to run off the edge anyway due to balustrading).

 

Why do all railway platforms' gradient slope towards the rails for babies in prams to be guillotined... repeated numerous times over the decades.

 

Basic design failure.

 

Basic fix: Slope away from rails & install drain other side or in centre for dual platforms design.

 

Hardly difficult stuff.

 

But then from my interpretation it is more cost effective having platforms sloping to rails. Even deducting the value of said baby/s life's!?

 

Even a more odd situation when Australia has one of the world's lowest birth rates.

 

But then again I am only a layman!



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Maybe they just assume that most people are intelligent enough to realise which way the slope goes and would act accordingly to make sure their little bundle of joy doesn't roll away.

But I suppose that as the population become less and less able to accurately determine the risks that exist around them, we'll have to put more and more bubble wrap barriers up.


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Northern Beaches Council (Manly Council in the era) put a safety fence around a lookout where the stupid jump off into the water & occasionally kill themselves (in overall numbers so to speak).

 

Now said "replacements" jump from another 1.5 metres altitude!



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Maybe it is to drain water off the platform onto the tracks,instead of it running back into the station infrastructure .



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Whenarewethere wrote:

 

 

But then again I am only a layman!

 

 

 

 

 

Gotta hand it to you, you got that bit right   biggrin



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Building codes.



To allow adequate drainage of the surface, the recommended minimum grade or cross-fall for a pavement is generally 1 in 100 (1%), or 10 mm per metre. The maximum grade should not exceed 1 in 20 (or 5%) in the footpath area or 1 in 4 (or 25%) within the property boundary.

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Apparently it was the wind, not the slope, how steep should the slope be to prevent this happening??

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Another tragedy in Sydney.



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Northern Beaches Council (Manly Council in the era) put a safety fence around a lookout where the stupid jump off into the water & occasionally kill themselves (in overall numbers so to speak).

Now said "replacements" jump from another 1.5 metres altitude.

You've answered your own question!!!

It's almost impossible to prevent inattentive / thoughtless / clumsy / outright stupid people from causing harm to themselves.

For example, a particular website that I regularly visit has many videos of people crossing the road while staring at their phone resulting in them being hit by vehicles.

What can ANYONE do to prevent such tragedies???



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There your kids,take some responsability and look after the buggers .Its called bloody parenting for gods sake.As for the idiots getting killed with phones in there hands ,natural selection rules,so nothing wrong with that.
Rock on people and have a fantastic day.

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This was a tragedy which should never happen. Most push chairs have a brake on them so why not use it? Better still NEVER let go of a pram on a railway station platform at all. This man paid with his life and that of his baby, for a lapse in awareness of his surroundings. I feel for the family who will have to live with this for the rest of their lives.

We humans will make mistakes, it has always been so and always will. Unfortunately those mistakes can have disastrous consequences sometimes. We are not perfect,(although I know quite few who think they are).

 

PS. Wawt, emotive references to guillotines and cliff jumpers do not add anything to constructive to the discussion and these sort of comments are better left unsaid.



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The dads attention to his mobile phone immediately before the pram rolling will feature in the Coroners report.   The online video showing up to just before the pram rolling away shows dad holding the phone in one hand and one hand on the pram.    The gradient on the platform is one element in this tragedy and dads attention to his responsibilities is another.


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Why shouldn't platforms slope away from the tracks, it only has to be a 50mm fall over 6 mt.

 



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67HR wrote:

Why shouldn't platforms slope away from the tracks, it only has to be a 50mm fall over 6 mt.

 

 

 

Why not indeed, sensible thing to do (in my opinion) would be to put that question to the Rail authorities, specifically their engineering railway station design group.  They would probably know a bit more than us folks.    



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Car handbooks used to show you how to adjust the valve clearances .
Now they tell you not to drink the battery fluid.

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As Plain Truth said a few posts back, the slope would be intentional so water drains off the platform easily. Many platforms (including Carlton) have tracks either side of the platform, and usually there are buildings and roofing for commuter shelter in the centre. Sloping the platforms away from the tracks would create significant additional cost and maintenance for drains down the centre, plus the whole platform would then be wet underfoot when it rained. Maybe that would cause more accidents due to people slipping.

Most footpaths slope towards the road, no doubt for the same reason.



-- Edited by Are We Lost on Tuesday 23rd of July 2024 11:18:03 PM

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