Fuel supply/ shortages

Whenarewethere · Guru

RE: Fuel supply/ shortages

Ineedabiggerboat · Senior Member

I think that this whole situation will become much worse. Lack of fuel means farmers cant produce, nothing will be transported by road. Airlines will cancel flights. Cost of everything will go through the roof. Not being pessimistic just realistic. There is no positive side to this. There is no way I would be setting out in a long trip. Getting cancer follow ups in Newcastle and Port Macquarie will be painful.

rmoor · Guru

Part of the problem seems to be the big operators are getting the fuel and concentrating on supplying the cities first.
So many small rural towns have small independent operators and this is where the diesel is needed the most.

The govt released 100,000 litres to a needy rural region, but the idiots sent unleaded.

When the supermarket shelves become bare for meat, fish, eggs, milk and bread soon, then they will be screaming in the cities there is no food and that will be the next toilet paper like rush.

Then, maybe, just maybe, those idiots in the capital city with in their shiny butt pants will finally realise the true value of the Aussie farmer and their need for diesel.

It is OK to quote the advantages of electric trucks, but how do producers move from 400 or 800 KM one way 60 round bales, a milk tanker, an abattoir truck or any other produce that requires heavy bulky transport?
Electric trucks might be OK for an Aldi run of 5 KM in a city but would be as handy as t*ts on a bull in the bush.......

Whenarewethere · Guru

That is exactly the point. All transport within a city can be done by EV. Probably reduces ICE wastage by 75%.

Ineedabiggerboat · Senior Member

Did the govt put fuel stabiliser in their stockpile? How old is the fuel?

rmoor · Guru

A mate told me today his son-in-law, a bush transport operator paid $2,000 more for his tanks to be replenished yesterday.
4,000 litres.

Guess what happens when he invoices next week.
The cost has to be passed on, small business cannot absorb these high inflationary prices.
Invoice the customer for the increase, or go broke.

I was talking to another transport operator this morning.
They said they are getting rid of their only employee.
When the govt changes to implement on 1 July, 2026 the weekly superannuation remittances weekly now for weekly pay instead of remitting to the super fund every three months.
They said they don't have the time or inclination or cash flow to waste time every week remitting super.
So their solution is to avoid all the red tape and simply get rid of the problem - sack the driver and do without.

One sits down and simply ponders the idiocy of our political leaders at all levels, on all sides of politics now?
Blind Freddie would have seen this fuel crisis looming for months.
Why wasn't anything put in place prior to the Iran crisis.
If "the person in the street" can see these things coming, why can't those in control (or lack thereof).

rmoor · Guru

"That is exactly the point. All transport within a city can be done by EV."

Fine.

Good.

Make it compulsory then for ALL freight in cities to be via EV.
Then send and stockpile the resultant unused diesel out to us so we can continue to feed the cities.

That works.

The only possible issue is if we can then produce enough power to keep the city medium rigid trucks charged.
Hopefully the sea of glass now surrounding my small rural town will be able to produce enough solar (and wind) power to keep the lights on and trucks charged in the city?

Corndoggy · Senior Member

Nothing was/is put in place by ALL our politicians because they can't think past what they thought yesterday. Thinking today is to much for them. Thinking for tomorrow would only put them into a coma.

Whenarewethere · Guru

rmoor wrote:
Blind Freddie would have seen this fuel crisis looming for months.
Why wasn't anything put in place prior to the Iran crisis.
If "the person in the street" can see these things coming, why can't those in control (or lack thereof).

We see these things because they affect us, not the lackeys running the system.

fatty · Veteran Member

Just to chuck a cat amongst the pigeons, without diesel to dig the coal and transport the coal to the power stations to produce electricity how do you city dwellers plan on keeping the electric trucks charged. The old slogan "without trucks Australia stops" comes to mind without diesel the trucks that keep the country going stop.

Ineedabiggerboat · Senior Member

Not quite Bugatti but 200 was enough. But a HSV Senator costs a lot less......

Whenarewethere · Guru

fatty wrote:
Just to chuck a cat amongst the pigeons, without diesel to dig the coal and transport the coal to the power stations to produce electricity how do you city dwellers plan on keeping the electric trucks charged. The old slogan "without trucks Australia stops" comes to mind without diesel the trucks that keep the country going stop.

How do we mine all the important things like gold.

This will stuff up everyones' superannuation.

fatty · Veteran Member

Whenarewethere wrote:
fatty wrote:
Just to chuck a cat amongst the pigeons, without diesel to dig the coal and transport the coal to the power stations to produce electricity how do you city dwellers plan on keeping the electric trucks charged. The old slogan "without trucks Australia stops" comes to mind without diesel the trucks that keep the country going stop.
How do we mine all the important things like gold.
This will stuff up everyones' superannuation.

Personally more concerned with keeping the lights on and the fridge cold,,, you know the basics.

Whenarewethere · Guru

Fridge can easily run off solar. All of us pretty much do that, & the lights, charge phones, camera, TV etc. Some of us run the air conditioning & induction cooking.

fatty · Veteran Member

That's great if you have that ability, I think there are still many millions of people around the country relying on the power grid for those basics. As I said huge quantities of diesel required to produce the electricity that all of us rely on every day.

rmoor · Guru

There are some electric vehicle charging stations in rural areas run by diesel generators.......