Answers....Food for thought...

aussie_paul · Guru

Answers....Food for thought...

Desert Dweller · Guru

We find it annoying these days that every second word some people utter is OMG when they don't believe in GOD.

Have a lovely CHRISTmas aussie paul.

Blues Man · Guru

Well said aussie paul and DD God bless you both and have a very merry CHRISTmas.

Dickodownunder · Guru

Absolutely Paul that message is spot on.

Have a safe and Happy Christmas.

Plain Truth · Guru

But isn't strange how people only want to keep some parts of Gods rule that suits them.

Look at the last vote we just had the majority voted Yes contrary to what we read in the Bible

I think this post will go nowhere

-- Edited by Plain Truth on Sunday 24th of December 2017 10:06:32 AM

Desert Dweller · Guru

Plain Truth wrote:
But isn't strange how people only want to keep some parts of Gods rule that suits them.
Look at the last vote we just had the majority voted Yes contrary to what we read in the Bible
I think this post will go nowhere

-- Edited by Plain Truth on Sunday 24th of December 2017 10:06:32 AM

And around 40% of us voted NO.

Kebbin · Guru

While your blaming everything on the faithless try looking at the righteous and poor parenting! And I fail to see any relevance between a Murdered Woman and someone who committed suicide. But I do see why there are Forum Rules regarding Religion.

Izabarack · Guru

aussie_paul wrote:
Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said "I believe God is deeply saddened by this,

Nothing profound or insightful in that nonsense. I want nothing to do with some entity that would allow children to endure the abuse handed out by people who tell any and all that they are Christians. She should do some good by getting out there and trying to undo any part of the hurt exposed during the recent Royal commission.

I also thought there was some rule about posting Religious Bull.

Iza

Plain Truth · Guru

Let's keep to the Rules No Religion

-- Edited by Plain Truth on Sunday 24th of December 2017 01:37:08 PM

aussie_paul · Guru

Appologies to Cindy and all offended.

Aussie Paul. smile

TheHeaths · Guru

Paul,

I don't think you need to apologise for making your post, or holding with the sentiment at this time of the year

It's just sad that everyone's experience with religion can be so different to create such conflicting positions which then create the angst often surrounding these posts, and precluding a reasonable and sensible discussion.

I just hope all have a happy and safe Christmas, and a safe, healthy and prosperous 2018. Lets all just treat each other how we would like to be treated ourselves, and see if that works out.

Plain Truth · Guru

TheHeaths wrote:
Paul,

I don't think you need to apologise for making your post, or holding with the sentiment at this time of the year

It's just sad that everyone's experience with religion can be so different to create such conflicting positions which then create the angst often surrounding these posts, and precluding a reasonable and sensible discussion.

I just hope all have a happy and safe Christmas, and a safe, healthy and prosperous 2018. Lets all just treat each other how we would like to be treated ourselves, and see if that works out.

Ian,I agree lets treat each other how we would like to be treated ourselves.

But we can't have a reasonable and sensible discussion about religion,everyone's views are different,hence the rules.

No offence to anyone.All the best to everyone and a Happy & Healthy New Year to all

-- Edited by Plain Truth on Sunday 24th of December 2017 05:03:30 PM

Desert Dweller · Guru

There's nothing wrong with having different points of view, that's what forums are all about.

We don't understand why some people get so upset if other members don't agree with their views.

Elderly people are new to social media & a lot don't understand the code of ethics. The main one being chill out.

landy · Guru

An interesting post AP. certainly did't offend me.

RustyD · Guru

landy wrote:
An interesting post AP. certainly did't offend me.

All OK by me too.

dorian · Guru

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/14/us/alabama-evangelical-christians-moore.html

Supporters of Roy S. Moore prayed at his campaign's election-night party in Montgomery, Ala., on Tuesday. Despite heavy backing from white evangelical voters, Mr. Moore was defeated in the Senate special election. Credit Audra Melton for The New York Times

The editor in chief of Christianity Today did not have to wait for the votes to be counted to publish his essay on Tuesday bemoaning what the Alabama Senate race had wrought.

Whoever wins, "there is already one loser: Christian faith," wrote Mark Galli, whose publication, the flagship of American evangelicalism, was founded 61 years ago by the Rev. Billy Graham. "No one will believe a word we say, perhaps for a generation. Christianity's integrity is severely tarnished."

The sight of white evangelical voters in Alabama giving their overwhelming support to Roy S. Moore, the Republican candidate, despite accusations of racial and religious bigotry, misogyny and assaults on teenage girls, has deeply troubled many conservative Christians, who fear that association with the likes of Mr. Moore is giving their faith a bad name. The angst has grown so deep, Mr. Galli said, that he knows of "many card-carrying evangelicals" who are ready to disavow the label.

The evangelical brand "is definitely tarnished" by politicization from whatever side, Mr. Galli said on Wednesday. "No question about it."

Sarco Harris · Senior Member

I simply cannot understand how reasonable and intelligent, well educated persons can believe in some malevolent being presiding over us all.

Religion, any religion, is responsible for virtual all subjugation of peoples the world over.
How can an organisation of any description condone spending $billions on an edifice to the glory of their god when it is funded by some of the poorest people on earth.
A tree in a paddock is as representative of this 'higher being' as any multi billion tax free building on a prime piece of tax free real estate in any prominent location on earth.

Sarco

Lancelot Link · Senior Member

This may cause a bit of mayhem, consider the origin of the Bible and the rewrites and usage of holy books throughout the world. They are nothing more than Political tools. Please sit back and consider this statement and the fact the Missionaries, Crusades and Inquisitions have caused more deaths through simple disease, political deaths, witch hunts and the like over the centuries than wars. Whole civilizations have been wiped out in the name of Religion, in fact, the Reforms in England over the years, lead by interpretations of the text have lead to many deaths. Another aspect is the adoption of Pagan festivals, calling them religious events! Just a few thoughts.

Christianity is not a belief in a book but a belief in good will and care for others!

dorian · Guru

FWIW, here is the actual transcript of the interview:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010913185312/http://www.cbsnews.com/earlyshow/healthwatch/healthnews/20010913terror_spiritual.shtml

Jane Clayson: I've heard people say, those who are religious, those who are not, if God is good, how could God less this happen? To that, you say?

Anne Graham Lotz: I say God is also angry when he sees something like this. I would say also for several years now Americans in a sense have shaken their fist at God and said, God, we want you out of our schools, our government, our business, we want you out of our marketplace. And God, who is a gentleman, has just quietly backed out of our national and political life, our public life. Removing his hand of blessing and protection. We need to turn to God first of all and say, God, we're sorry we have treated you this way and we invite you now to come into our national life. We put our trust in you. We have our trust in God on our coins, we need to practice it.

dorian · Guru

AISI, religion is programmed into the human genome.

Darwinian evolution contends that every organism has a survival instinct. If it did not, it would be extinct. Human beings have evolved to the point where we are able to contemplate our own mortality. We all accept that we will eventually die, but our survival instinct wants us to live forever. To this end, we invent the concept of eternal life and encapsulate it in an ideology we call "religion". In effect, religion represents the logical evolution of our survival instinct.

In short, evolution can explain religion, but religion can explain nothing.

-- Edited by dorian on Tuesday 26th of December 2017 10:20:25 AM