Yes, its all in the how its catagorised.

Interest paid on loans to shore up the Budget is a big number also... Immigration probably includes the Camps on Nauru and Manus..

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Spot on Craig1, I also would prefer more to indigenous peoples in preference to foreign aid and immigration.

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 Another vote for Craig 1, billions of dollars for new submarines & a space base in Arnhem Land.

We're such a pathetic country on a world stage. Our indigenous population have needed massive funding for health, education & housing for decades.

We need to look after our own back yard first. In reality it's our FRONT yard. What a ridiculous long term situation!

As usual nothing of any substance will ever get done. Words are cheap, we'd like to help in a limited way. Priority number one.

 

-- Edited by Desert Dweller on Wednesday 24th of January 2018 05:42:32 AM

Hi Rocket, had the same thoughts. I think, maybe, you could get some numbers from the Dept of Finance website or perhaps Treasury. They would be at a very high level though.

Desert Dweller wrote:

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Possum3 wrote:

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Spot on Craig1, I also would prefer more to indigenous peoples in preference to foreign aid and immigration.

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 Another vote for Craig 1, billions of dollars for new submarines & a space base in Arnhem Land.

We're such a pathetic country on a world stage. Our indigenous population have needed massive funding for health, education & housing for decades.

We need to look after our own back yard first. In reality it's our FRONT yard. What a ridiculous long term situation!

As usual nothing of any substance will ever get done. Words are cheap, we'd like to help in a limited way. Priority number one.

 

-- Edited by Desert Dweller on Wednesday 24th of January 2018 05:42:32 AM

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I not really fussed how much gets spent on the indigenous population provided it was for their benefit an not on all of the fringe industries that surround them that use the funds up mostly in admin costs with not a lot benefit for the people who need it

one example in a remote country town(nsw) mostly indigenous residents government housing needed a coat of paint the contractor brought the labour from Sydney while the locals sat under a tree collecting welfare bye the time they finished painting the houses the first ones where just about ready to be done again I would have thought it would be dollar wise to train a team of locals to do the job as required just think of how much It cost in admin fees to get the job done ex Sydney with all the middle men involved

just read a story from west aus that the emergency services won't attend a part of town without police escourt due to being pelted with rocks an bricks

Kebbin, just that we hear of lots of money being spent and some of it is wasted as there are many unsolved issues relating to the originals. But it must be a small amount if it doesn't get a gurnsey in OP table of spend.
I am with Dogbox about outside waste and the lack of true results. There is an excellent article from Jacinta Nampijinpa Price ( Alice Springs Councillor) in today's Herald Sun. Seems to make a lot of sense to me. Cheers Craig

So the average tax payer contributes $11427.
What do companies pay. Strange that's missing.

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I reckon the indigenous community should be self sufficient / funded. Anything on indigenous land should be putting royalties into their funding; places like Uluru, mining, electricity poles, phone towers, private railway lines etc. And of course doing their own maintenance on their housing. This requires education and a sense of ownership that lots of social welfare recipients do not understand (or want to understand) regardless of their colour or background.

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just read that fortesque metals spent 2 billion dollars employing indigenous companies and sub-contractors in their mines and associated businesses that is a lot of money going into the communities in the area or is it going to the sauvy few an the rest can go jump???

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Gday...

Are you sure about that Dogbox?

I am aware Fortesque Metals Group  has joined with ANZ to provide upto $50Million as 'finance' (loans) for indigenous businesses that work with, for or want to work with, for Fortesque.

http://www.fmgl.com.au/in-the-news/media-releases/2017/09/29/fortescue-and-anz-launch-new-funding-model-to-support-aboriginal-businesses

Are ya able to find a link to the article you refer to where Fortesque is going to spend $2billion actually EMPLOYING businesses/contractors/employees?

Cheers - John

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fortescue's billion opportunities program has awarded 250 contracts and subcontracts to107 aboriginal businesses and joint ventures totalling almost $A2.0 billion

that is copy of what is written in their DEC 2017 quarterly report as read form asx release posted on comsec

it also states that 15% of its workforce is aboriginal

Gday...

TA Dogbox

However, that is $2billion (gross) being awarded to contracts for work to be provided. I am sure you understand that the net profit to the contractors/sub-contractors for that $2billion worth of contracts may only be 10% or so profit - rather than $2billion going to communities ... or even that 10% profit.

Fortescue has always been an active employer of indigenous workers - but wages go to individuals and their families rather to the community's assets/income.

Cheers - John