Foreign Bacon

Craig1 · Guru

Foreign Bacon

Warren-Pat_01 · Guru

Craig1,
We bought some "Original Mountain Ash Wood Smoked Bacon" from Coles last week. P&M Quality Smallgoods is the company from Chullora, NSW.
The offer other products as well.

Is "Made from at least 95% Australian ingredients with meat from Australia". Was a little dearer than Don bacon (25% Australian ingredients) but the taste was superb & we are supporting Australian companies. Landline on Sunday had a segment on the struggling Australian pork industry.

Whenarewethere · Guru

We are not big meat eaters by any stretch of the imagination but I had long discussion with our local butcher. He only sells bacon from females as it tastes better.

I don't want to be sexist but they should state on the pack whether it's male of female!

Phillipn · Guru

Whenarewethere wrote:
We are not big meat eaters by any stretch of the imagination but I had long discussion with our local butcher. He only sells bacon from females as it tastes better.

I don't want to be sexist but they should state on the pack whether it's male of female!

Not to many people would be able to tell if the bacon middle rashers were from a male or female pig. Their is a difference.

It is like black angus beef, another sales gimmick.

Kebbin · Guru

They are referring to the processing of smoking and brining not much smoking going on commercially these days that's all liquid smoked and boiled.
Some butchers still smoke but at to high a temperature for my liking as it renders the fat. I prefer the cured bacon over any commercially smoked bacon.

Righto Phil please tell me how to tell the difference in rashers between male and female pigs? I know of the taste because boars are given something to remove the taint or have their gonads released.

www.accc.gov.au/consumers/groceries/country-of-origin

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Phillipn · Guru

Kebbin wrote:
They are referring to the processing of smoking and brining not much smoking going on commercially these days that's all liquid smoked and boiled.
Some butchers still smoke but at to high a temperature for my liking as it renders the fat. I prefer the cured bacon over any commercially smoked bacon.
Righto Phil please tell me how to tell the difference in rashers between male and female pigs? I know of the taste because boars are given something to remove the taint or have their gonads released.

www.accc.gov.au/consumers/groceries/country-of-origin

-- Edited by Kebbin on Thursday 8th of November 2018 11:47:39 AM

-- Edited by Kebbin on Thursday 8th of November 2018 11:58:18 AM

The difference is not in the taste, male pigs have several thinner layers of fat and muscle at he bottom end of a middle of bacon [under belly]. females have a large section of fat. Which would develop into the udder with maturity. Sorry, I do not have a photo to show you. I hope this explains the difference to you. I have seen thousands of pigs slaughtered.

Possum3 · Guru

The taste of pig meat is governed by what they eat - that's why you catch young pigs and feed them curds and vegetables. Wild pigs eat anything, including rotten road kill - that definitely will effect their "Taste".

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

A baconer in farming is an older pig . An old sow etc . The older have more tast . Best fed higher protein foods to build meat , less fat .Its all about money these days !

Santa · Guru

Was unaware bacon pork was being imported, pretty sad state of affairs, Just checked the package of Don bacon we have in the fridge, made with 20% Australian ingredients, obviously imported pork. furious

Yes, I do enjoy bacon and eggs now and again.

There is no question that pork from uncastrated male pigs (boar's) can have a very unpleasant taste, once experienced never forgotten.

"Boar taint is the offensive odor or taste that can be evident during the cooking or eating of pork or pork products derived from non-castrated male pigs once they reach puberty. Boar taint is found in around 20% of entire male finishing pigs. Skatole may also be detected in gilts, but this is linked with faecal contamination of the skin. Studies show that about 75% of consumers are sensitive to boar taint so it is necessary for pork producers to control it."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boar_taint

Craig1 · Guru

Smokeman Brothers, by P & M Smallgoods, claim 95% Aussie, and it is pretty good. Look at the price per feed for two, not per kg ,as a treat maybe. Could save a few local jobs. Thanks Warren

Plain Truth · Guru

We are lucky down in Bairnsdale,our local fresh food market,has some great smoked goods.

our butcher.jpg

mark and kerry · Veteran Member

i actually found australian bacon at IGA

dogbox · Guru

if you have 95% Australian bacon where does the other 5% of the pig come from

Santa · Guru

Smoking, preservatives and packaging. smile

Craig1 · Guru

Bloody foreign smoke, maybe from Tasmania at the moment

Mutley · Senior Member

Possum3 wrote:
The taste of pig meat is governed by what they eat - that's why you catch young pigs and feed them curds and vegetables. Wild pigs eat anything, including rotten road kill - that definitely will effect their "Taste".

Not true.

Back when you were a child farmed pigs were fed that garbage that ends up in cans of dog food these days. You know, awful offal!

I bet that the bacon tasted great then too!

The big differences in taste are that farmed pigs don't run around much, so are not tough to eat. They also gather fat, which adds a taste of its own.

Wild pigs are often skinny, tough & full of worms.

Phillipn · Guru

Mutley wrote:
Possum3 wrote:
The taste of pig meat is governed by what they eat - that's why you catch young pigs and feed them curds and vegetables. Wild pigs eat anything, including rotten road kill - that definitely will effect their "Taste".
Not true.
Back when you were a child farmed pigs were fed that garbage that ends up in cans of dog food these days. You know, awful offal!
I bet that the bacon tasted great then too!
The big differences in taste are that farmed pigs don't run around much, so are not tough to eat. They also gather fat, which adds a taste of its own.
Wild pigs are often skinny, tough & full of worms.

Sparganosis worms, will no be detected if you don`t know how to find them. Wild pigs from the gulf area are loaded with them. I have seen a lot of wild pigs slaughtered and most get a condemned stamp.