As much, if not more, abuse against children and women is perpetrated by family members in the home!
Doesnt excuse those in the church who abused positions of trust, nor those who protected them, but there are many more in the church who live good lives and do much good.
So very true Ian.
Aussie Paul.
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Friday 27th of December 2019 08:56:59 PM
Amazing how many negative wingers are avoided by people that whinge about them... rather than avoid them its better imo to try to get the best out of them, getting to know them is a good start.
As for the religious side of the HC buns Christianity has been on the decline for a long time. Times change and most people of typical grey nomad ages cant adapt/change at the same pace. Your old days are gone, move on, that aint coming back
Tony
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Sorry Tony, but declining involvement, and times changing are not really valid reasons for disrespect for others beliefs. I assume you celebrated Christmas in some manner?
In my opinion, that is a big part of the problems in society, disregarding and down playing the things other hold as important.
Some other instances of such behaviour that I could quote include those who question Anzac Day, and those who question Australia Day. Certainly the changing of the times is no valid reason in my opinion to question the remembrance of those.
A little more tolerance and support of others beliefs would benefit society immensely.
My interest in this aspect of this topic was not theological, as I am agnostic at best, but purely as a comment on what I see as an erosion of decent social mores in the name of nothing more than profit. I often wonder what reaction would be if other non Christian beliefs were used more openly for profit. Would that be accepted so freely.
So I now retreat to the quiet of my lounge chair, and will leave others to their cup of tea, fruit bun, and the discussion.
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Chaos, mayhem, confusion. Good my job here is done
Sorry Tony, but declining involvement, and times changing are not really valid reasons for disrespect for others beliefs. I assume you celebrated Christmas in some manner?
In my opinion, that is a big part of the problems in society, disregarding and down playing the things other hold as important.
Some other instances of such behaviour that I could quote include those who question Anzac Day, and those who question Australia Day. Certainly the changing of the times is no valid reason in my opinion to question the remembrance of those.
A little more tolerance and support of others beliefs would benefit society immensely.
My interest in this aspect of this topic was not theological, as I am agnostic at best, but purely as a comment on what I see as an erosion of decent social mores in the name of nothing more than profit. I often wonder what reaction would be if other non Christian beliefs were used more openly for profit. Would that be accepted so freely.
So I now retreat to the quiet of my lounge chair, and will leave others to their cup of tea, fruit bun, and the discussion.
Dont know where you got the idea I disrespect others having their beliefs. Have any belief you like. As for celebrating xmas- no, I didnt "celebrate" it at all, a good reason however to have a family gathering and a good piece of pork.
I served my country in the ADF so I do hold close feelings of our fighting forces.
Think you assume a lot, toss a rock then leave the area with no further discussion. Not so friendly.
Tony
-- Edited by Eaglemax on Sunday 29th of December 2019 03:31:43 AM
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Ahh!
The joys of religion or politics.
Lighten up folks, the best form of advertising is to get everyone talking about a product.
There is no such thing as bad advertising.
The bun makers have achieved what they want to achieve...sales and being noticed by most people.
I dont buy them, even at Easter as Rob is not keen on them and I can certainly take them or leave them as well.
I find those ones you buy in those 6 or 12 packs taste like plastic compared to years ago when true bakers actually made them.
Dont like them or dont agree with them being available out of the Easter period then leave them on the shelves of the duopoly stores.
Last year I got them Boxing Day. But I have resisted this time round, I still full from Christmas Day......... maybe tomorrow after a day at work. They always taste good.
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Wherever the four winds blow. I'm restless, I'm ready
No probs the Heaths
Im an atheist but I do agree as a society some things should be protected.
A simple rule of placing a circle instead of a cross on the buns 11 months of the year would maintain the significance of Easter and the cross.
...circle buns!
Tony
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Be nice... if I wanted my school teacher here I would have invited him...
Sorry Tony, but declining involvement, and times changing are not really valid reasons for disrespect for others beliefs. I assume you celebrated Christmas in some manner?
In my opinion, that is a big part of the problems in society, disregarding and down playing the things other hold as important.
Some other instances of such behaviour that I could quote include those who question Anzac Day, and those who question Australia Day. Certainly the changing of the times is no valid reason in my opinion to question the remembrance of those.
A little more tolerance and support of others beliefs would benefit society immensely.
My interest in this aspect of this topic was not theological, as I am agnostic at best, but purely as a comment on what I see as an erosion of decent social mores in the name of nothing more than profit. I often wonder what reaction would be if other non Christian beliefs were used more openly for profit. Would that be accepted so freely.
So I now retreat to the quiet of my lounge chair, and will leave others to their cup of tea, fruit bun, and the discussion.