It's being patented

What a strange thread!

Why even bother to mention it?

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Gee you mean outright THEFT-!!! My relative is a Lawyer/ Builder whose made 3 protypes to show Jayco next week,byeee
And this
it may give some of us,some ideas for the future-" why would a smart person Give Away ideas-??

Sorry I asked for a pic, so please have a nice day

I can assure you, that the Grey Nomad forum members, I have met so far

Are not the sort of people, who would steal another persons idea of making a

Corner Triangle system that is multi functional..It has a hand held shower hose for the only water supply..A Portable in & out sink,a portaloo in bottom.A backsplash of tin...A removable Triangle bench also for food preps make this 2 ft X 2 ft area is a 5 in 1 functions.No cupboards & no doors

Just in case you are unaware, Australia went to the metric system of measurement in 1974, so you will probably have to change your 2 ft X 2 ft area 

The patent office would probably like to see something like 0.6096 Metres X 0.6096 Metres, or 60.96 Centimetres X 60.96 Centimetres, or 609.6 Millimetres X 609.6 Millimetres

 

 

 

I'm quite sure a Lawyer who is also a Builder is extremely well educated & qualified to-" millimetre-" everything"

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:

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It's being patented

Intellectual property was a significant part of my previous employment. Do you have any idea what a full patent costs? And I doubt very much if it is patentable anyhow. This sounds like a "development" not a patentable new concept. A registered design may be worthwhile, but that is very different from a patent.

If it is patented, you then need to be capable of prosecuting someone who breaches that patent. If you don't have the financial capability to do that you are wasting your money patenting it in the first place.

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Spot on.

Full patents are almost always a waste of time and money for small business. The patent takes an age to obtain, is expensive and will normally have patent attorney fees on the top. And in the meantime the Chinese, who don't give a toss about your patent application, have already manufactured the product and are selling it.

On top of all that; once you obtain your patent and a large company infringes it the cost of proving that in court is astronomical and way, way beyond small business.

There use to be, in Australia, something called an "Innovation Patent" which had some small merit - I don't know if it still exists.

I gave up on patents years ago and, instead, concentrated on niche areas where the big boys were not interested.

Mike Harding wrote:

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And in the meantime the Chinese, who don't give a toss about your patent application, have already manufactured the product and are selling it.

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 Actually, a patent does not stop someone making something, it stops them selling it in the country or countries covered by the patent, so a patent taken out for Australia (for instance) effectively stops the Chinese (or anyone else) from selling the product in Australia (but no where else) without a license agreement from the patent owner.

A full "world wide" patent used to cost in excess of $100,000 to establish 25 years ago, plus the ongoing annual fees. It won't be less now. There are much cheaper ways to get coverage, but if there is a breach or a challenge, the full fees for the patent plus the court costs of defending it must all be paid eventually if the cover is to be maintained.

It is also quite legal to manufacture ONE ONLY of a patented product for your own personal use, but you may not sell it (or even give it away) to someone else.

Cheers,

Peter

"World wide".
Correct.
There are groups of countries that you can choose to use or not and others that are separate, so for maximum coverage the application needs to be submitted multiple times in multiple jurisdictions. That is one of the reasons it becomes so expensive.
It is only the countries that the product will be sold in that need to be covered though, so for an RV product you would typically choose USA and Europe first off. Canada, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand etc become relatively minor additional choices depending on the product.
Cheers,
Peter

Mmm so you are going to prepare food on top of the loo ?