This is what's wrong with the USA

Bobdown · Guru

This is what's wrong with the USA

Wanda · Guru

Yep, sad is'nt it.
The trouble is I don't think its repairable
Ian

Bicyclecamper · Guru

I can remember back when I was 13, going into a sports store to buy .22 hollow points, for my Sportco semi-auto 22. Which my dad was present for when I bought the weapon. Never had issues getting ammo, on my own. When I was 16 went in and bought a pump action 5 shot shot gun and ammo. But in those days, we were killing vermin, not humans.

Sarco Harris · Senior Member

Bicyclecamper wrote:
I can remember back when I was 13, going into a sports store to buy .22 hollow points, for my Sportco semi-auto 22. Which my dad was present for when I bought the weapon. Never had issues getting ammo, on my own. When I was 16 went in and bought a pump action 5 shot shot gun and ammo. But in those days, we were killing vermin, not humans.

While I generally agree and regularly bought shotgun cartridges and 22 ammo from KMart, I only used them in firearms, as just about anything is a weapon, if the user wishes it to be so. Even the Department of Defence defines the two terms differently.

Bicyclecamper · Guru

Sarco Harris wrote:
Bicyclecamper wrote:
I can remember back when I was 13, going into a sports store to buy .22 hollow points, for my Sportco semi-auto 22. Which my dad was present for when I bought the weapon. Never had issues getting ammo, on my own. When I was 16 went in and bought a pump action 5 shot shot gun and ammo. But in those days, we were killing vermin, not humans.
While I generally agree and regularly bought shotgun cartridges and 22 ammo from KMart, I only used them in firearms, as just about anything is a weapon, if the user wishes it to be so. Even the Department of Defence defines the two terms differently.

I think, as I am an ex-soldier, with 22 years service, I am just use to calling them weapons, but firearms, maybe the better term for me to use in the future, as have been chipped about my use of the word before elsewhere and it seemed to cause offence.

Possum3 · Guru

Like Ric, I grew up with firearms readily accessible - long and short arm, was taught how and when to use.

As a teenager, I owned .22 semi auto, Martini Henry .450, Savage Model 24S-E Over and Under.22 Long Rifle and 20 Ga. combination rifle - shotgun, and my pride and joy a .303 Lee/Enfield. Dad had a 9mm Luger, .22 Lithgow rifle, 8 Gauge Double Barrel shotgun.

I used to catch a bus on Saturday mornings with the .303 over my shoulder going to Long Bay Rifle-range.

In later life, I was taught to be proficient with various guns, rifles and ordinance.

These "Tools" were always considered as such, my father had a Razor-Strop that ensured I had that mind-set ingrained.

In my considered opinion there are more illegal hand guns in Australia than, when I grew up in a Country that had moral and ethical values.
It is these "weapons" in the hands of unskilled, cowardly criminals of unknown origins that are the problem - Not legitimate licenced owners of Firearms.

Recoup · Guru

I don't see anything wrong by owning a gun ,look at Switzerland,

the country has about 2 million privatly owned guns in a nation of 8.3 million people.
In 2016 , the country had 47 attempted homicides with firearms. The country's overall
murder rate is near zero.
Education is what they need ,that's all, cheers

oldbloke · Guru

This does not surprise me. But like Australia firearm laws in the USA vary in every state. I believe some are not much different to here. Others very slack. The biggest issue is in some states there are restrictions on new firearms but the used market is completely un-regulated. So used firearms are with no controls whatsoever.

I might be corrected on some of this tho.