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Yep Wolseley, enlarged picture does outline emblem and tell-tale dip in bumper.
I should have known better a '53 680 was my first real automobile - my first "Car" a '32 Chevrolet was a dog in comparison.


 The 680 seems to have been quite an impressive car in its day,with a 6 cylinder 72hp engine,compared with the Holden of the day,the 60hp FJ Holden. Apparently,the Wolseley had a reputation for good (?) handling,too.The photo of the black car clearly shows the shape of the grill.Cheers

 

 

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My old 680 was tricked up by Merv Waggott (Ken's brother) at Greenacre Sydney - attained a "flying start" timed 115 mph on an old airstrip near Mt Ousley early '60's. You're right, they just settled down and hugged the road (God! What were we thinking on those old tyres?)

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Whenever the subject of Wolseley's comes up I think of a pisshead mate of mine of the 60's who had what he called 'My Beaut Wolseley' & didn't he get up to some terrible trouble in it.

I recall coming home with him in it after a night on the booze about 2am.  As we were driving past a park, a pedestrian was walking along the footpath.  He suddenly swerved off the road across the grass gutter and did a near miss of the poor pedestrian.  He exclaimed "buggar I missed" and wanted to go round the block & have another go.  Not sure if he was serious or not, but I was sober enough to dissuade him.

How we survived those days & without police records I'll never know.

Unfortunately the grog got him in mid life.  He was actually a good bloke normally.

Another mate had one of those Ford V8s with the 'fast back'.  It was pretty fast too.  After a night out that involved a police chase, he turned up with it shortly after painted (with a brush of course) in a completely different colour.  In fact that car frequently changed colour.  He later became a well regarded school teacher & upstanding member of the community.



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My old 680 was tricked up by Merv Waggott (Ken's brother) at Greenacre Sydney - attained a "flying start" timed 115 mph on an old airstrip near Mt Ousley early '60's. You're right, they just settled down and hugged the road (God! What were we thinking on those old tyres?)



 Yeah,I remember way back in the late 60s,a Waggott cam was the thing to have.And,as you suggest,it would be a brave man who drove at 115mph (185km/hr) on those old cross plies! Cheers



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Whenever the subject of Wolseley's comes up I think of a pisshead mate of mine of the 60's who had what he called 'My Beaut Wolseley' & didn't he get up to some terrible trouble in it.

I recall coming home with him in it after a night on the booze about 2am.  As we were driving past a park, a pedestrian was walking along the footpath.  He suddenly swerved off the road across the grass gutter and did a near miss of the poor pedestrian.  He exclaimed "buggar I missed" and wanted to go round the block & have another go.  Not sure if he was serious or not, but I was sober enough to dissuade him.

How we survived those days & without police records I'll never know.

Unfortunately the grog got him in mid life.  He was actually a good bloke normally.

Another mate had one of those Ford V8s with the 'fast back'.  It was pretty fast too.  After a night out that involved a police chase, he turned up with it shortly after painted (with a brush of course) in a completely different colour.  In fact that car frequently changed colour.  He later became a well regarded school teacher & upstanding member of the community.



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 Cupie,is one of these the model you referred to...1948 sedan and coupe? Cheers

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Cray fishing, or shark 1949 was possibly skilled. They had to know how to navigate, know how to construct a weather forecast from assorted barometric and wind reports, know how to cook, or starve, how to make their own bunk and how to live with one to three others on a small wooden boat for up to 10 days at a time.



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 Cupie,is one of these the model you referred to...1948 sedan and coupe? Cheers

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 Much like the black one but I thought that the mudguard wasn't so prominent.



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Sorry about taking it off topic again but when you look at that last picture you can see where Morris and MG got that wide squat look from. Oh yesterday, I will never forget those great cars. They just had heart and soul. It was Doug's fault I went off topic.

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 Yep  .. That's the one.  His were usually orange, red or yellow though. LOL



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Cray fishing, or shark 1949 was possibly skilled. They had to know how to navigate, know how to construct a weather forecast from assorted barometric and wind reports, know how to cook, or starve, how to make their own bunk and how to live with one to three others on a small wooden boat for up to 10 days at a time.


 Great photo Craig....I've added it to my collection.Cheers



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When our family graduated from a bicycle in 1954



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When our family graduated from a bicycle in 1954


 And half a dozen kids on the back,no doubt.When I was a youngster,we used to load 6-8 kids onto the back of an old ute,and drive 50km to a beach to dig toheroas.In those days,we were allowed 20/person,but the ute owner's ransom was 10 toheroas/passenger.On top of his quota of 20,he got 60-80 as ransom.He ended up with 100,while we got 10 each,but it was great fun Cheers



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My first car was an Oakland.

Only a passing resemblance to the one in the pic.  Mine had a full rag roof & the paint job was nowhere as good as this one.

I got myself into a fair bit of trouble when I pulled out the generator to 'do it up'.  It ran directly off the timing chain.  Luckily a bush mechanic mate got it back in with the aid of a bit of fencing wire....  the gaffa tape of the day.

I actually made a profit on it.  Purchased for 20 pounds & sold for 30.  The new owner blew up the motor a couple of weeks after the sale.

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We haven't wandered too far off the original thread, have we?

This was more like mine

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We didnt graduate to kids in the back until a 1956 Austin A40 ute with a canopy, then about 8 or 10 under 13's going to footy at 9 in the morning. But my Dad reckoned the Pontiac was great for bring a spud bag full of ice block home for the upright wooden cooler. It beat slinging it over his shoulder on the bike.

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We didnt graduate to kids in the back until a 1956 Austin A40 ute with a canopy, then about 8 or 10 under 13's going to footy at 9 in the morning. But my Dad reckoned the Pontiac was great for bring a spud bag full of ice block home for the upright wooden cooler. It beat slinging it over his shoulder on the bike.


 Times certainly have changed! In the late 60' one of our neighbours worked at the local sheetmetal factory,and had a J1 Bedford as a "company car". This little truck had an 8' tray,and was fitted with a lightweight canopy,open-ended at the rear.Inside,on either side of the canopy there was mounted a 9x2 piece of wood to form a seat,and one of Vic's duties was to run around town each morning,picking up a truckload of factory workers to be driven to the factory for their day's work. On the way home,he would drop the workers off at their homes.No seat belts,and not a lot of room,with their lunch boxes etc on the floor between their legs.The workers would quite happily sit in the back of the truck,downing a couple of coldies on the way home.Imagine how far they'd get doing that now! Yes,the good old days,before we allowed ourselves to be taken over by do-gooders telling us what is best for us.Cheers

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 Mack B61...twin stick? Cheers



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 Mack B61...twin stick? Cheers


 some had 3 sticks



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 Mack B61...twin stick? Cheers


 some had 3 sticks


 The B61 had a choice of 3 transmissions,I believe.First was 10 speed duplex,with 5 gears in main box,and 2 in auxiliary.Then we had the 15 speed triplex,with 3 gears in the auxiliary,and the other option was the 20 speed quadriplex,which had 4 gears in the auxiliary.All had 2 gear levers. The only truck that I have had anything to do with that had 3 gear levers was a Scammell Contractor,but there may well be others? Ah ha...just found B61 with 3 sticks...looks like you can't split 5th gear in main box?Cheers0F8E860F-0E0F-4A01-AB60-D097A0866F6D.png28467D2E-C8B2-4268-AFD2-6FB2CEF8ECD1.png



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We had a fleet of 7 B61 and they all had 3 sticks, I was always amazed how the drivers would stick there hands through the spokes of the steering, no clutch changing gears going up over the mountain, They all had 10 yard tippers on them. Worst job I reckon was pulling a compressor, steering box was in the way so they both had to sorta come at once. Also had a r600 with a detroit engine pulling the low loader, that sounded fantastic coming down the mountain in the middle of the night
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 About 1935 I'd suggest? Front wheel drive,with supercharged V8 around 125HP,and a 'disappearing' canvas convertible top.Cheers



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We had a fleet of 7 B61 and they all had 3 sticks, I was always amazed how the drivers would stick there hands through the spokes of the steering, no clutch changing gears going up over the mountain, They all had 10 yard tippers on them. Worst job I reckon was pulling a compressor, steering box was in the way so they both had to sorta come at once. Also had a r600 with a detroit engine pulling the low loader, that sounded fantastic coming down the mountain in the middle of the night
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Seems the third gear lever operated a simple  'Hi-Lo' box,so you then had 18 gears with the duplex auxiliary,27 gears with the triplex 3 speed auxiliary box,and 36 gears with the quadriplex 4 speed auxiliary,because you could not use 'Lo' when in 5th gear in the main box.In the 70s I operated bulldozers in the bush,West of Norseman in WA,and our transporter was an old 'Flintstone' R600 Mack. Driver insisted that it had 'more than 100 gears'.....??? Cheers



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IMG_20201224_0002.jpgA couple more, Vauxhall also carted half a footy team,u/13's. Landrover carried West Coast Crayfish from Temma to Stanley.



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IMG_20201224_0002.jpgA couple more, Vauxhall also carted half a footy team,u/13's. Landrover carried West Coast Crayfish from Temma to Stanley.


Yay!   The old EIP Vauxhall,built from 1951-1957.The green car is among the first built,with the blue one being among the last.Had a couple of engines,both under 2300cc,but they were lightning quick(?) and were able to reach 100km/hr in a smidgen under 22 seconds! My road car reaches 100km/hr in under 5 seconds,so things certainly have changed! Cheers84522D1C-D11E-4DD3-A46C-EEB4F817A87E.png



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from memory the quad box had a possible combination of 64 forward gears but you would have to be very skilled to remember how to put them together

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from memory the quad box had a possible combination of 64 forward gears but you would have to be very skilled to remember how to put them together


 I would be most interested to learn how this is possible.Main box has 5 gears and Joey box has 4.Multiply 5x4 and we have 20.Multiply this by two for the gears in the Hi-Lo box,and you have 40 gears.However,the 'splitter' (Hi-Lo) box cannot be used in 'Lo' when the main gearbox is in 5th gear,so you lose 4 gears there ,taking total available gears back to 36 gears..Cheers

P.S .....5x4x2=40,then deduct 4=36.



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from memory the quad box had a possible combination of 64 forward gears but you would have to be very skilled to remember how to put them together


 I would be most interested to learn how this is possible.Main box has 5 gears and Joey box has 4.Multiply 5x4 and we have 20.Multiply this by two for the gears in the Hi-Lo box,and you have 40 gears.However,the 'splitter' (Hi-Lo) box cannot be used in 'Lo' when the main gearbox is in 5th gear,so you lose 4 gears there ,taking total available gears back to 36 gears..Cheers

P.S .....5x4x2=40,then deduct 4=36.


 back in the mid seventies a friend brought himself an old Inter L190 repowered with a GM V53 about 230 hp, the interesting thing was this was connected to a 10 speed Road Ranger then a 3 speed Joey box behind that a 2 speed bogie drive. The prime mover was built up of recycle parts in the sixties to haul logs out of the bush up around the mid coast of NSW, it was the truck that brought the big logs out of the bush but Stevie only used it on the Highway cart general but could spit a few gears if the need arises. I found him one night scratching his head he had no real road speed until I remined him did he go into the second range of the Road Ranger, he was so over worked that night.

Rest in peace Stevie, I still get a giggle of those days, you with the mechanical skills and me just wanting to drive trucks, top times.



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Can't believe that 'Pipes' hasn't joined in on this discussion.

Must be having computer problems.

 

In the main I can't understand what you're talking about ...  sort of.



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