I think I will wait before i get the vaccine

Izabarack · Guru

RE: I think I will wait before i get the vaccine

dorian · Guru

Mike Harding wrote:
Wanda wrote:
Seriously, yes, you are entitled to your opinion but when you are so far from mainstream thinking you really have to expect responses from people, me included.
Others who were far from mainstream thinking:
Galioeo
Leonardo da Vinci
Louis Pasteur
Barry Marshall
Dan Shechtman
Isaac Newton
The list goes on....

Now I don't know who's right or who's wrong in the covid thing but I do know it is usually the people who question the accepted wisdom who are often at the forefront of discovery.

So Craig Kelly is in good company, then?

Mike Harding · Guru

dorian wrote:
So Craig Kelly is in good company, then?

Dunno... there are a lot of loonies out there too but just *because* someone does not following mainstream thinking does not ipso facto make them one.

Major developments almost never originate from individuals who are stuck in the rut of following the herd thought and belief system.

Wanda · Guru

dorian wrote:
Mike Harding wrote:
Wanda wrote:
Seriously, yes, you are entitled to your opinion but when you are so far from mainstream thinking you really have to expect responses from people, me included.
Others who were far from mainstream thinking:
Galioeo
Leonardo da Vinci
Louis Pasteur
Barry Marshall
Dan Shechtman
Isaac Newton
The list goes on....

Now I don't know who's right or who's wrong in the covid thing but I do know it is usually the people who question the accepted wisdom who are often at the forefront of discovery.
So Craig Kelly is in good company, then?

Thanks Dorian that was going to be my comeback line but I really could'nt be bothered.

You just can't discuss with people who think like this person CK does

cheers
Ian

Santa · Guru

Mike Harding wrote:
Wanda wrote:
Seriously, yes, you are entitled to your opinion but when you are so far from mainstream thinking you really have to expect responses from people, me included.
Others who were far from mainstream thinking:
Galioeo
Leonardo da Vinci
Louis Pasteur
Barry Marshall
Dan Shechtman
Isaac Newton
The list goes on....

Now I don't know who's right or who's wrong in the covid thing but I do know it is usually the people who question the accepted wisdom who are often at the forefront of discovery.

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"The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking."

John Kenneth Galbraith (1908-2006)
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Don't forget Pete Evans. biggrin

DMaxer · Guru

I think when the vaccine becomes available the choice might just be made for us. Although the Government cannot force anyone to take the vaccine, they can certainly restrict the movement and activities of those that choose not to accept it. I know from recent experience during this covid crisis in going to visit my old mum in aged care that if I chose not to have the flu immunisation then they would choose not to allow me to enter the facility.

All the government needs to do is to either legislate or direct Government Departments, banks, entertainment venues et al not to allow unvaccinated persons to enter.

Freedom of choice does not necessarily mean freedom of choice.

msg · Guru

Facebook, twitter are banning posts that say anything that may be considered supporting conspiracy theories. There is no such thing as informed choice these days just the pro govt. line. I can understand not going into nursing homes without vaccination but its could get scary if they go too far.

Wanda · Guru

I think we have to be grateful that our Governments are at least listening to "health professionals", in all states and federally.
I can understand peoples cynicism in regards to trusting the Government( their own fault)but these are unusual times, while health professionals are involved I feel "reasonably" confident that we are being given the correct information.
Otherwise who do you listen too, Graig Kelly, Allan Jones or maybe even Donald Duck or even Fox news?
Just imagine if we "all" decided not to take the vaccine, what then?
just my thoughts
Ian

Mike Harding · Guru

msg wrote:
Facebook, twitter are banning posts that say anything that may be considered supporting conspiracy theories.

Both these companies must be regarded as anti free speech.

The internet will morph, as it always has, and uncensored speech will emerge again.

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Despite people attempting to twist my words I am not anti vaccine (quote me, if you can?) but I am pro free speech in all its wonderful vagaries - if we shut down free speech then we shut down progress.

I really do wonder how many of you have read George Orwell's novel 1984?

Recoup · Guru

Wanda wrote:

Otherwise who do you listen too, Graig Kelly, Allan Jones or maybe even Donald Duck or even Fox news?

Ian

You forgot Neil Mitchel Vic. 3 AW

Wanda · Guru

Recoup wrote:
Wanda wrote:

Otherwise who do you listen too, Graig Kelly, Allan Jones or maybe even Donald Duck or even Fox news?

Ian
You forgot Neil Mitchel Vic. 3 AW

Sorry, if I listed all "all n..ters" (in my opinion) I would have been typing all day missing out on happy hour, which is about to commence.

But yes you can add him as well, the list goes on!

Ian

DMaxer · Guru

What I find the most tedious is that every time any mention whatsoever of a vaccine is made on the news we immediately get shown footage of someone in a laboratory either looking at or filling up a test tube followed by someone else getting a needle.

Thank God the proposed method of delivering the vaccine is not by way of a suppository. Wouldn't that make the news footage interesting!

-- Edited by DMaxer on Friday 12th of February 2021 09:16:37 AM

Wanda · Guru

Q and A last night
Did anyone watch it, 4 x health experts with NO politicians! Without a doubt one of the most informative shows re the virus I have seen, NO politics!
I really hope some of the people on here watched it, including the very popular Craig Kelly & Paleo Pete, as it really did explain what will be happening with the vaccine(s) as well as putting to bed some of the myths floating around the community and on THIS forum.
If you did'nt see it go to catchup and watch it, very informative for all.
cheers
Ian

-- Edited by Wanda on Friday 12th of February 2021 09:23:39 AM

DMaxer · Guru

As it was on the ABC I imagine the viewing audience could be counted on one hand. The audience would have been made up of representatives of every minority group, each competing against one another to be recognized as the main victim in our society.

Wanda · Guru

DMaxer wrote:
As it was on the ABC I imagine the viewing audience could be counted on one hand. The audience would have been made up of representatives of every minority group, each competing against one another to be recognized as the main victim in our society.

I suggest you watch it on iview catchup, it was very informative about much of what has been discussed on here, it was not about the audience!

I realise a lot of people don't watch Q&A but this episode was not political or had anything to do with minority groups.

Ian

DMaxer · Guru

Thanks for your suggestion but no thanks. I think cleaning out my sock drawer would interest me more than the tripe they peddle.

Dougwe · Chief one feather

Morning BigD,

While you clean out the sock drawer clean out the undies drawer too mate.

Hope you are well.

Sounds like we are about to go into lockdown again. Bugga!

Tony LEE · Guru

"As it was on the ABC I imagine the viewing audience could be counted on one hand. The audience would have been made up of representatives of every minority group, each competing against one another to be recognized as the main victim in our society." Yes I guess the audience would have been quite small but the ABC is quite used to that. Getting harder and harder to find people who can handle words containing more than two syllables in complex sentences.

DMaxer · Guru

It looks like you have five days worth coming up Doug. Just when it looked like things were turning for the better, too.

Recoup · Guru

I can see why a lot of people don't like Alan Jones .

www.skynews.com.au/page/alan-jones

Cupie · Guru

Mike Harding wrote:
msg wrote:
Facebook, twitter are banning posts that say anything that may be considered supporting conspiracy theories.
Both these companies must be regarded as anti free speech.
The internet will morph, as it always has, and uncensored speech will emerge again.
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Despite people attempting to twist my words I am not anti vaccine (quote me, if you can?) but I am pro free speech in all its wonderful vagaries - if we shut down free speech then we shut down progress.
I really do wonder how many of you have read George Orwell's novel 1984?

'All pigs are equal but some pigs are more equal than others'? Was that written on the barn wall I think.

My memory is failing since I last read 1984 circa 50 years ago & someone has permanently borrowed my collection of Orwell's books.

Edit .... After a little bit of research ,, The quote was 'All ANIMALS etc' (not All PIGS) and was from Animal farm. At least it was a mis quote of an Orwell novel. I got that bit right. LOL

-- Edited by Cupie on Friday 12th of February 2021 10:38:41 PM

-- Edited by Cupie on Friday 12th of February 2021 10:39:25 PM

Tony Bev · Guru

Recoup wrote:
I can see why a lot of people don't like Alan Jones .

www.skynews.com.au/page/alan-jones

Hi Recoup

Thanks for putting that link up, as I do not watch much TV

But...

If what he said was true, that the leaders of the new global order, are using the pandemic as a coup, or what he called the great reset, then I would have expected him to have been silenced, last week

Because

Historically anyone who has, or is planning a coup, usually silences their critics ASAP

Therefore my gut feeling tells me, that what I was watching was nothing more than sensational reporting

Dougwe · Chief one feather

DMaxer wrote:
It looks like you have five days worth coming up Doug. Just when it looked like things were turning for the better, too.

Yep. Also and as well even they reckon even here in rural VIC we can only travel 5km. Funny that as it is 18km to nearest supermarket. Someone just came back from it and said it's packed so I will go in first thing in morning so might be in free accommodation tomorrow night even with bars to hold onto.
Like 1000's of others, I'm over this s..t.

Craig1 · Guru

Dictator Dan said this arvo, "common sense applies" so Chief you are safe to go and buy, 77 dunny rolls, 36 paper towels, 7 thousand cans of baked beans( on special at woolworths $1) and maybe 2 cans of beer.

landy · Guru

Another interesting read.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-12/coronacheck-craig-kelly-tanya-plibersek-fight-parliament-covid/13144628

landy · Guru

Craig1 wrote:

Dictator Dan said this arvo, "common sense applies" so Chief you are safe to go and buy, 77 dunny rolls, 36 paper towels, 7 thousand cans of baked beans( on special at woolworths $1) and maybe 2 cans of beer.

Dougwe · Chief one feather

Craig1 wrote:
Dictator Dan said this arvo, "common sense applies" so Chief you are safe to go and buy, 77 dunny rolls, 36 paper towels, 7 thousand cans of baked beans( on special at woolworths $1) and maybe 2 cans of beer.

Bugga. Now I'm realy P'd off Craig. I was going to buy 78 dunny rolls and a 6 pack of beer. Now I might run out.

Mike Harding · Guru

Thank Goodness I bought my toilet paper earlier this week! :)

Recoup · Guru

You can't make this up , what does our Gov. know ?

hpv-vaccine-side-effects.com/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects-world-map/

Wanda · Guru

Recoup wrote:
You can't make this up , what does our Gov. know ?

hpv-vaccine-side-effects.com/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects-world-map/

Says who "you can"t make this up" there is a lot of fake made up news out there thats the big problem with social media.

You really need to fact check these types of articles, before posting, so many of them have just been made up from dodgy figures.

Some of these cases may well be true, but also maybe before posting it it would be more helpful to "fact check" it first.

cheers

Ian