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yobarr wrote:

 

oldbloke wrote:

No doubt about it yobbo. Your a troll.
Transferred or moved or for that mater distributed as i stated many times is not changed in the context you are using.

Troll
Trouble maker.
Argumentive.


 The word you seek probably is "argumentative",but all I ever do is present detailed advice on weights to help those with little,or no,understanding of same.If ever I post something that I am not 100%  sure of,I will preface it with something along the lines of "I believe",or similar.STILL you seem not to accept that TBW cannot be "Transferred" or "moved" without that weight being taken off the towball? If that weight is "moved" or "transferred" simple logic would dictate that the weight on the towball has changed? A WDH does NOT change towball weight...ever.Period.Cheers 


 Oldbloke

I had a small transport business before retiring. I worked in the transport industry most of my life and what I discovered early in the piece was that there were some that you had no faith in when you sent them out to load the truck legally.

These fellas generally had no idea of weight distribution when placing a load onto a trailer or even a rigid truck.

I guess this will never change for some.

Regards

Rob

 



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Hahaha Rob,

Just noticed your new avatar picture, I remember the old channel 19 very well.

I knew some blokes over the years that could not load a truck or even use a spacebar.

They are definitely out there.

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Brenda and Alan wrote:

I have stayed out of this discussion up till now as I gave up trying to convince others of my reasoning. This discussion is becoming more complex than it needs to be. Gregs analogy of a prop under a roof is not apt because in our case there is no additional support introduced by a WDH

Just keep your eye on the weights that the scales tell us.

1  The WDH reduces the total weight born on the tug wheels. This is simply because it reduces the down force on the tow bar by its lifting action.

2  The van wheels now reflect this reduction by an increase in weight. That means that there in no overall increase in van weight.

3  This same lifting action also reduces the weight born by the rear axle of the tug and increases that on the front axle.

Alan


 That is all very well when stationary Alan , but when the rig moves everything changes 

I think what everyone may be missing is the wdh is not a fixed bar

it is a moving flexible gizmo ,so the ball weight has to be still there or the rig would not be stable 

don't laugh  :):):

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-- Edited by orid on Friday 23rd of April 2021 12:36:44 PM

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Brenda and Alan wrote:

I have stayed out of this discussion up till now as I gave up trying to convince others of my reasoning. This discussion is becoming more complex than it needs to be. Gregs analogy of a prop under a roof is not apt because in our case there is no additional support introduced by a WDH

Just keep your eye on the weights that the scales tell us.

1  The WDH reduces the total weight born on the tug wheels. This is simply because it reduces the down force on the tow bar by its lifting action.

2  The van wheels now reflect this reduction by an increase in weight. That means that there in no overall increase in van weight.

3  This same lifting action also reduces the weight born by the rear axle of the tug and increases that on the front axle.

Alan


 Alan,you are so far lost in the WDH wilderness that I fear for you.Many times,both on the forum and by PM,I have explained to you the workings of a WDH,but still you do not,will not,or cannot understand that a WDH does NOT change towball weight...EVER. To refresh your memory,I have included a screen shot of a PM I sent to you on May 14,2020.Because we have not heard from you of late,I thought that finally you understood the facts. Apparently not? Cheers

 

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Hey Yobarr,

Has the tow ball weight remained the the same on the Olds Toronado and van picture I posted yesterday?
If it has then why isn't the rear of the car dragging on the ground?

Regards

Rob



-- Edited by bentaxlebabe on Friday 23rd of April 2021 01:53:15 PM

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