Fitzroy Crossing WA caravan park assault.

Possum3 · Guru

Fitzroy Crossing WA caravan park assault.

Tony Bev · Guru

In my opinion, and I speak only for myself

As old as we are, we should stand up against the bully/s and troublemakers, otherwise it will not be worth travelling

Tony LEE · Guru

Sorry to disagree but, although I would probably be silly enough go out to help, it would be an extremely stupid thing to do under those circumstances. What are a few unorganised old wrinklies in their pyjamas going to achieve except to get their own head bashed in.

Seems as if the immutable laws of bad karma kicked in, albeit a bit late for the two girls at the timr, and they ended up with some good karma too

-- Edited by Tony LEE on Tuesday 10th of August 2021 03:59:39 PM

dogbox · Guru

unfortunately if you went out an stuck your nose in you could end up in more trouble than the poor young under priveledged offenders , when the police show up

Mike Harding · Guru

I've never stood by and ignored people being abused and I never shall. One has to face the mirror each day.

Bicyclecamper · Guru

Back in the 70's -80's when we travelled, I carried a pistol and a rifle, and only one occasion, I drew the pistol to extricate people that were trying to rob from us, out in the bush( and it was the Kimberly's, but not who you think was involved). Even though they say weapons never solve anything, on that night it did. Nothing else would have worked. Today, you as an adult cannot really protect yourself against children, because if you do, it is likely you would be prosecuted, but surely we should be allowed to have mace, the least likely weapon that can cause permanent harm. I can see people living up there, bringing weapons back for protection soon if the law cannot get this problem under control. This same problem is happening in South Africa, and it is very, very bad, but the locals, are allowed to use deadly force. How long before, it starts getting real deadly up there where people are being killed all the time?, before the government acts. If I lived there and had to protect my family from this, I would use deadly force, something that is likely going to happen some time in the near future to someone in the Kimberly's, be that a local or a traveller...

Possum3 · Guru

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Tony LEE · Guru

Possum3 wrote:
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Might want to try it out first, because chances are it won't be effective.

Had a local druggy running amok in Brazil and the locals couldn't settle him down and then he tried to get into our camper with Betty inside - so I sprayed him pretty thoroughly with bear spray. Barely slowed him down.

Bicyclecamper · Guru

I think they banned that because people were buying it for self defense. Self defense to day is non existent, but not for me in my own home. I am pretty worried though now, as our shire is putting sewerage in, and my method of disposal of said intruder, has always been the septic tank, I don't know where I am going to put them now.

Whenarewethere · Guru

Police say do not get involved. Call them & take evidence from a safe distance if it is safe to do so.

Mike Harding · Guru

Whenarewethere wrote:
Police say do not get involved. Call them & take evidence from a safe distance if it is safe to do so.

And that is just so much crap.

I'm currently camped in the bush in Victoria - the nearest police officer would be, at least, 20 minutes drive away and in reality much more probably a couple of hours. Added to that is that there is barely any phone coverage here.

In the bush we make our own law and we take care of ourselves and we'll answer to 12 persons if necessary rather than be carried by them.

This country needs to reassess its position on personal protection.

Whenarewethere · Guru

You could end up with a very expensive legal bill simply to defend yourself at $10+k a day.

Even if you win you most likely still need extremely deep pockets.

peter67 · Guru

dogbox wrote:
unfortunately if you went out an stuck your nose in you could end up in more trouble than the poor young under priveledged offenders , when the police show up

And the two young ladies who were beaten up got moved out of the treatment room at Hospital to make way for the injured car robbers...

yobarr · Guru

Bicyclecamper wrote:
I think they banned that because people were buying it for self defense. Self defense to day is non existent, but not for me in my own home. I am pretty worried though now, as our shire is putting sewerage in, and my method of disposal of said intruder, has always been the septic tank, I don't know where I am going to put them now.

Drum of acid works well!

Possum3 · Guru

Tony LEE wrote:
Possum3 wrote:
Always near the door www.bunnings.com.au/pestxpert-400g-wasp-jet-long-reach-spray_p3010422
Might want to try it out first, because chances are it won't be effective.

It will make them drop like a bag of spuds - it's then sorry officer I was just getting some wasps that were hovering at the drain on my caravan when this chap attacked me.

peter67 · Guru

Not when they are on Crystal...

Possum3 · Guru

peter67 wrote:
Not when they are on Crystal...

Even meth heads can't handle in eyes - when six burly boys in blue can't hold them.

Whenarewethere · Guru

When my Dad was in hospital in emergency from one of his many falls.

One night this small girl was brought into emergency. 6 football sizes security guards were lying across her with their weight to hold her down onto the bed.

Eventually the sedative knocked her out.

It was staggering where this energy came from. Frightening stuff.

I was in the hospital the next day to see my Dad still in emergency & happen to see this girl walk out trying to be as invisible as possible. She was a slight little thing.

Possum3 · Guru

Whenarewethere wrote:
It was staggering where this energy came from. Frightening stuff.

It's every copper's worst nightmare.

Tony LEE · Guru

"It will make them drop like a bag of spuds" In your over active imagination.

STRETCH ARMSTRONG · Senior Member

I would never ignore a cry for help either.

-- Edited by STRETCH ARMSTRONG on Tuesday 10th of August 2021 09:35:52 PM

dogbox · Guru

Mike Harding wrote:

Whenarewethere wrote:
Police say do not get involved. Call them & take evidence from a safe distance if it is safe to do so.
And that is just so much crap.
I'm currently camped in the bush in Victoria - the nearest police officer would be, at least, 20 minutes drive away and in reality much more probably a couple of hours. Added to that is that there is barely any phone coverage here.
In the bush we make our own law and we take care of ourselves and we'll answer to 12 persons if necessary rather than be carried by them.
This country needs to reassess its position on personal protection.

yes very hard to stand by and take evidence when you know the police won't show up till it is all over . even if you get involved as a witness you could be tied up in the system for a long time ,so you do what you think is the right thing and hope for the best even making your presence known may be enough to defuse the situation and save someone.

peter67 · Guru

For the older would be thieves in Fitzroy Crossing maybe they could put a few signs up in town like...how to turn $40 bucks in to $400...put $40 bucks worth of fuel in your car, and drive to work.

Mike Harding · Guru

peter67 wrote:
For the older would be thieves in Fitzroy Crossing maybe they could put a few signs up in town like...how to turn $40 bucks in to $400...put $40 bucks worth of fuel in your car, and drive to work.

And perhaps the younger ones could try going to school?

oldbloke · Guru

Mike Harding wrote:
Whenarewethere wrote:
Police say do not get involved. Call them & take evidence from a safe distance if it is safe to do so.
And that is just so much crap.
I'm currently camped in the bush in Victoria - the nearest police officer would be, at least, 20 minutes drive away and in reality much more probably a couple of hours. Added to that is that there is barely any phone coverage here.
In the bush we make our own law and we take care of ourselves and we'll answer to 12 persons if necessary rather than be carried by them.
This country needs to reassess its position on personal protection.

Agree. Current rules/laws are stupid.

dogbox · Guru

can't find the link about a police officer who is charged with murder after he shot a person 3 times who had stabbed him with a pair of sissors . maybe some can find the story

-- Edited by dogbox on Wednesday 18th of August 2021 01:09:06 PM

Possum3 · Guru

dogbox wrote:
can't find the link about a police officer who is charged with murder after he shot a person 3 times who had stabbed him with a pair of sissors . maybe some can find the story

-- Edited by dogbox on Wednesday 18th of August 2021 01:09:06 PM

DB you are referring to the case of Zach Rolf in NT - The Prosecution are today lodging an appeal to High Court the matter will be heard at 2.00pm Thursday No description available.

New date set for murder trial of NT police officer Zachary Rolfe - ABC News

-- Edited by Possum3 on Wednesday 18th of August 2021 02:57:28 PM

Dick0 · Guru

First rule in First Aid is your own safety.

You firstly need to assess possible danger to yourself.

You are no good to anyone to give assistance if injured by thugs.

It is often the good Samaritan that will be accountable to any injuries inflicted in defense of others.

The Law can be a Bitch!

dogbox · Guru

Possum3 wrote:

dogbox wrote:
can't find the link about a police officer who is charged with murder after he shot a person 3 times who had stabbed him with a pair of sissors . maybe some can find the story

-- Edited by dogbox on Wednesday 18th of August 2021 01:09:06 PM
DB you are referring to the case of Zach Rolf in NT - The Prosecution are today lodging an appeal to High Court the matter will be heard at 2.00pm Thursday
New date set for murder trial of NT police officer Zachary Rolfe - ABC News

-- Edited by Possum3 on Wednesday 18th of August 2021 02:57:28 PM

must be the case the the report i seen had a bit more detail about the circumstances