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Alan Jones has done his last program on Sky News, I never really warmed to his on screen persona. His program was too much about his personal monologues, about he's right and everyone else is wrong. I have no issue with Sky News being heavily right wing, as I lean to the right. Goodbye Alan I won't miss you.

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TV has never been his forte, he has never succeeded in it....strictly a Radio man, but his time has come now as his time is up, I hope that he retires silently and just sticks to his occasional newspaper articles.
I was a fan in his hey day, but alas, father time catches up with us all.



-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Friday 5th of November 2021 06:29:58 AM

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Thankfully he will just go away forever What a horrible thing he is I know several people who listen to him daily and their views reflect his, I could never understand how anyone could listen to the rubbish he spews our Nothing concerns him, even the numerous court hearings that ruled that he broke broadcasting laws I saw that poorline Hanson has offered him a job. 2 peas in a pod

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The fat guy with the beard will be the heir apparent to take on the role. He is a total fruitcake.

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The whole line up at Sky are extreme right neo nutters who ravish turmoil, everything they spew reeks of a antagonist viewpoint. As for their supporters the American Redneck always comes to mind, absolutely no thought of consequence of their actions.

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The whole line up at Sky are extreme right

If Sky News is "extreme right" then where on the political spectrum would you place, say, General Franco or General Pinochet or, for that matter, Adolf Hitler and when did the goal posts move?



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The whole line up at Sky are extreme right

If Sky News is "extreme right" then where on the political spectrum would you place, say, General Franco or General Pinochet or, for that matter, Adolf Hitler and when did the goal posts move?

OK, so Sky "News" isn't as bad as Adolf. I feel so much better now.



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The whole line up at Sky are extreme right

If Sky News is "extreme right" then where on the political spectrum would you place, say, General Franco or General Pinochet or, for that matter, Adolf Hitler and when did the goal posts move?

 I would say right there with them, Mike. If they were still around today I am sure they would have their own show on that channel.



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DMaxer wrote:
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The whole line up at Sky are extreme right

If Sky News is "extreme right" then where on the political spectrum would you place, say, General Franco or General Pinochet or, for that matter, Adolf Hitler and when did the goal posts move?

 I would say right there with them, Mike. If they were still around today I am sure they would have their own show on that channel.

ISTM that the political spectrum is nonlinear. Instead it's more like a logarithmic scale, so the difference between far, extreme and ultra is relatively small.

 

 



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It should have happened decades ago. 



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DMaxer wrote:

The fat guy with the beard will be the heir apparent to take on the role. He is a total fruitcake.




are we talking "SANTA CLAUSE "

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It interests me that you cannot (unless you are being frivolous) make a distinction between brutal, murdering, torturing dictators and an Australian television channel; that you are so myopic in your political view you see the two as synonymous.

I have noticed the term "extreme Right" being bandied about wildly over the past few years and it seems to me this is being done to vilify political thinking which is anywhere Right of the Centre. If the media (I hate to say it but mainly the ABC) can associate the political Right with "badness" (and extreme is usually bad) then it will encourage people away from the Right wing of politics. One *never* hears the term "extreme Green" and very seldom "extreme Left" but if you wish to observe the veracity of such I commend the journal Green Left Weekly to you.

I ask again: what is "extreme Right wing"? Is it:

Being in favour of private health care or

Being in favour of private schools or

Being in favour of letting the police hold people without charge for 365 days or

Being in favour of forcing unemployed people to work in lead mines or

edit: Someone who is opinionated and whose opinions do not align with yours

What *is* *extreme* Right wing and how does it align with Sky News which, by the way, I have never watched?



-- Edited by Mike Harding on Friday 5th of November 2021 03:39:26 PM

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I dont know if there is an extreme right Mike. There are right wing, centre right and left and left wing views. I guess the term extreme is just subjective. I dont watch SKY as they are just paid talking heads pushing Ruperts agenda. If he changed his views tomorrow, so would they.

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The fat guy with the beard will be the heir apparent to take on the role. He is a total fruitcake.

 If he is a fruitcake, then surely the supporters of the ABC lefty loonies could be aptly described as mindless numpties.

But in fact I like the fat guy with a beard because he calls it as he sees it, which resonates average bloke or sheila in Oz.

 



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 I dont watch SKY 

 

Then I am surprised you are so assured and confident in your opinion of the channel.... 



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I said I dont watch it Mike. That does not mean I havent watched it. Having watched it, I dont watch it.

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The fat guy with the beard will be the heir apparent to take on the role. He is a total fruitcake.

 If he is a fruitcake, then surely the supporters of the ABC lefty loonies could be aptly described as mindless numpties.

But in fact I like the fat guy with a beard because he calls it as he sees it, which resonates average bloke or sheila in Oz.

 

Your logic appears to be, "I am an average bloke, fatso resonates with me, so therefore he resonates with every average bloke/sheila".

How about an impartial view (see page 55)?

Digital News Report: Australia 2021 (University of Canberra, News and Media Research Centre):

https://apo.org.au/sites/default/files/resource-files/2021-06/apo-nid312650_0.pdf

Sky "News" gets 10% of the audience, the ABC gets 40%.

 

 



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I said I dont watch it Mike. That does not mean I havent watched it. Having watched it, I dont watch it.

 Classic :)



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Digital News Report: Australia 2021 (University of Canberra, News and Media Research Centre):

https://apo.org.au/sites/default/files/resource-files/2021-06/apo-nid312650_0.pdf

Sky "News" gets 10% of the audience, the ABC gets 40%.

Not what your would call a piece that would resonate with the majority the population, I fear it would fail the pub test.

How did they contrive the ABC get 40% of the audience, the rating dont support that theory.

Channel        04/11/2021 28/10/2021  07/10/2021

ABC TV Network 14.50% 14.40% 15.60%

Seven Network 28.60% 27.10% 21.40%

Nine Network 27.30% 27.40% 32.80%

Network 10 20.60% 20.60% 21.00%

SBS Network 9.00% 10.60% 9.20%

 

 

 



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Digital News Report: Australia 2021 (University of Canberra, News and Media Research Centre):

https://apo.org.au/sites/default/files/resource-files/2021-06/apo-nid312650_0.pdf

Sky "News" gets 10% of the audience, the ABC gets 40%.

Not what your would call a piece that would resonate with the majority the population, I fear it would fail the pub test.

How did they contrive the ABC get 40% of the audience, the rating dont support that theory.

Channel        04/11/2021 28/10/2021  07/10/2021

ABC TV Network 14.50% 14.40% 15.60%

Seven Network 28.60% 27.10% 21.40%

Nine Network 27.30% 27.40% 32.80%

Network 10 20.60% 20.60% 21.00%

SBS Network 9.00% 10.60% 9.20%

 

 

 

My numbers appear on page 55 under the heading "ABC CONSOLIDATES ITS POSITION AS TOP OFFLINE AND ONLINE NEWS BRAND". The fact that Sky doesn't rate in your list suggests to me that you're looking at some other list. The publication that I referred to compares ABC News with Sky News and other news networks. On that basis the ABC gets 40% of Australia's news audience whereas Sky gets only 10%, lower than SBS at 15%.

BTW, I don't get my news from the pub.



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SoloMC wrote:

Thankfully he will just go away forever What a horrible thing he is I know several people who listen to him daily and their views reflect his, I could never understand how anyone could listen to the rubbish he spews our Nothing concerns him, even the numerous court hearings that ruled that he broke broadcasting laws I saw that poorline Hanson has offered him a job. 2 peas in a pod

 Yes, agree. Will say anything to get ratings. Just forget facts or truth. Leans so far right he keeps falling over. Lol



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I said I dont watch it Mike. That does not mean I havent watched it. Having watched it, I dont watch it.

 Classic :)

Peter: if he doesn't watch it then how does he know what it is like now?

I read The Age regularly and know it has a Left wing bias (note I didn't say extreme) - if the last time I read it was five years ago then I could no longer be sure of that, could I?



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I watch ABC and have to put up with their left-wing agendas..
I watch Sky new and have to put up with their right-wing agendas..

Truth is somewhere in the middle most days.

Pick your poison...

mixo

P.s The best time is when I'm on holidays and don't watch news of any sort! It's amazing what it does to your well-being!

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Mike Harding wrote:
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I said I dont watch it Mike. That does not mean I havent watched it. Having watched it, I dont watch it.

 Classic :)

Peter: if he doesn't watch it then how does he know what it is like now?

I read The Age regularly and know it has a Left wing bias (note I didn't say extreme) - if the last time I read it was five years ago then I could no longer be sure of that, could I?

 Agreed, I still like the DMaxer answer.



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I think some get their news from the Tribune.



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Mike Harding wrote:
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I said I dont watch it Mike. That does not mean I havent watched it. Having watched it, I dont watch it.

 Classic :)

Peter: if he doesn't watch it then how does he know what it is like now?

I read The Age regularly and know it has a Left wing bias (note I didn't say extreme) - if the last time I read it was five years ago then I could no longer be sure of that, could I?

I would think that, after hiring Alan Jones, it would be a safe bet that Sky didn't shift in any way towards the left.



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Alan Jones has done his last program on Sky News, I never really warmed to his on screen persona. His program was too much about his personal monologues, about he's right and everyone else is wrong. I have no issue with Sky News being heavily right wing, as I lean to the right. Goodbye Alan I won't miss you.

 FYI there's your plain vanilla DCM and then there's the higher award of DCMC, I'm hoping he got the latter.



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People will watch whatever news meets there political leanings. Anyone, with more than half a brain, will see through the so called journalism, when the said journalist has an agenda, and mentally filter out that rubbish. Others take it as gospel, requote the supposed presenter and think that they are right because that trash suites his or her way of thinking. Some presenters need a lot more filtering than others. 

 

It's getting quite boring reading these posts about commercial versus public funded media. No one is going to change another person's preferences with these quibbles.  no



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Buzz Lightbulb wrote:

>It's getting quite boring reading these posts about commercial versus public funded media.

So stop reading and commenting on such threads then.

 

 

>No one is going to change another person's preferences with these quibbles.

One of the purposes of argument/debate is to change the view of another but further reason is to test one's own opinion to see if the perspective of another has more veracity than one's own. But if you feel that nothing which is presented to you will sway your views then so be it.



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Well ? As he once wrote for Mal Frazer . Life wasnt meant to be easy !!

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