Novak Djokovic covid exemption - boycott the Open

dorian · Guru

RE: Novak Djokovic covid exemption - boycott the Open

Cupie · Guru

After reading a few pages of comments on this topic, it appears that for once most of us seem to agree that he should go.

However, but I am firmly of the view that this is just another (probably successful) example of Scomo's 'Look over here' 'Look over here' tactic that he uses so effectively. In this case he seeks to divert attention from the Govt's failure WRT timely RAT orders & distribution .. who knows it may even mask attention from their failure to administer Booster shots to Fed Govt controlled Old Age Home residents and their 'let it rip' policy that has seen the explosion of covid positives.

landy · Guru

They say a picture paints a 1000 words. I noticed this picture popped up in one of today's news stories with no comments, but I'm guessing it's intended to say heaps.

-- Edited by landy on Monday 10th of January 2022 11:15:06 AM

Wanda · Guru

Cupie wrote:
After reading a few pages of comments on this topic, it appears that for once most of us seem to agree that he should go.
However, but I am firmly of the view that this is just another (probably successful) example of Scomo's 'Look over here' 'Look over here' tactic that he uses so effectively. In this case he seeks to divert attention from the Govt's failure WRT timely RAT orders & distribution .. who knows it may even mask attention from their failure to administer Booster shots to Fed Govt controlled Old Age Home residents and their 'let it rip' policy that has seen the explosion of covid positives.

I suspect you are probably 100% correct, what ever his reason, he must be thinking there are votes in it for him!!

As we are not permitted to discuss politics on here, enough said!!

Ian

Corndoggy · Senior Member

Its been said Tennis Australia have mislead the Novax camp on requirements to enter Australia. Id rather see him turned back and then take Tennis Australia to court for damages if this is the case. Think both of them want to be in the country any way they can, legal or not so legal. Anyway will find out later on today.

Corndoggy · Senior Member

Its been said Tennis Australia have mislead the Novax camp on requirements to enter Australia. Id rather see him turned back and then take Tennis Australia to court for damages if this is the case. Think both of them want to be in the country any way they can, legal or not so legal. Anyway will find out later on today. How come we didn't have all this over the England cricket team. Surely than would have been given all the same information on entry visa's. Then again are any of the cricket team as self centered as Novax.

rgren2 · Guru

Novax has been very upfront in his support for preventing Rio Tinto from mining lithium in his country.

-- Edited by rgren2 on Monday 10th of January 2022 02:25:02 PM

landy · Guru

Corndoggy wrote:

Its been said Tennis Australia have mislead the Novax camp on requirements to enter Australia. Id rather see him turned back and then take Tennis Australia to court for damages if this is the case. Think both of them want to be in the country any way they can, legal or not so legal. Anyway will find out later on today. How come we didn't have all this over the England cricket team. Surely than would have been given all the same information on entry visa's. Then again are any of the cricket team as self centered as Novax.

I'm not Sure of the answer to the English cricket team question but maybe they all just done the right thing and got vaccinated instead of trying to find loopholes to crawl through.

Landy

montie · Guru

I think this exemption for being previously infected with covid is nothing more than a bodgy loophole.

dabbler · Guru

It's a medical exemption because it's not advisable to have the Covid vax within 6 months of a positive PCR. No different to a the other medically valid reasons that might mean a person may isn't jabbed. However Djokovic wouldn't ever consider the vax anyway. The man is an absolute loon and his personal beliefs are just not credible. Check out his psuedo-scientific statements (I especially like both the gluten and contaminated water comments) and check out the criticism of his stance on Covid vaccination by Serbian govt health authorities.

Whenarewethere · Guru

He has to be released & the government told to pay all his legal fees.

dorian · Guru

Let's hope the Minister has the balls to tell the judge who makes the decisions about who enters this country.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-10/novak-djokovic-live-court-hearing-jan-10/100747106

Counsel for the Commonwealth Christopher Tran told the court that following the decision, the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship may exercise his discretion to cancel Mr Djokovics visa regardless.

Judge Kelly says he is very concerned about that potential outcome.

Brodie Allen · Guru

Judge Anthony Kelly is a tennis fan and my investigation reveals a leftist inclination.

What a wonderful opportunity taken to embarrass the government!

landy · Guru

I believe any medical advice on how long you need to wait after contracting Covid before getting vaccinated is completely irreverent.
Our border requirements state that he is not eligible to enter Australia, as Cricket Australia were Clearly Informed and have chosen to ignore.

I'm with dorian here lets hope the minister has the balls.

Landy.

Brodie Allen · Guru

Another bet I'll make just as i predicted that Novax would get in:

The Minister WON'T have the balls.

Mind you, hope I'm wrong.

peter67 · Guru

Arrogance.

He should be bent over someone's knee and smacked repeatedly on his bare bum with a tennis racquet, so he gets to feel what the tennis ball does. In other words, this guy needs a severe empathy lesson.

Des and Jane · Senior Member

What a weak pathetic government we have,
I am gutted that this moron has been allowed in to play.
Is it that money talks ??
The rules are quite clear....
Hopefully the AFP can still stop him or it could set a precedent.

Mike Harding · Guru

The logic here is interesting:

The judge decided Djokovic had not received "procedural fairness" during his detention at the airport and so negated his arrest and released him into the community.

If I commit a murder but the police fail to afford me procedural fairness will all charges be dropped and I'll be free to go?

I can see that Djokovic may have a damages claim against the Commonwealth but I fail to see why that negates his attempt to enter this country illegally and then go on to spread covid in the community.

Rob Driver · Guru

As reported by the News Media this morning,

The decision to release him immediately was made by a Court of Law..

A Court of Law does not exist if it does not support and uphold the Law.

Just a total fiasco.

Send him home TODAY.

Wanda · Guru

Where's our beloved leader or his side kick ?

Say no more !
Ian

dorian · Guru

Wanda wrote:
Where's our beloved leader or his side kick ?

They're trying to work out if the judge can take all the blame for the fallout. It's a disgrace when one unelected individual can dictate this country's immigration and public health policy.

Corndoggy · Senior Member

And as if a judge or magistrate has never made a bad judgement and way too lenient sentence on a court case. Judge can add a new plaque on his chamber door.

VISA APPROVALS.

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

The judge made no decision. The result was negotiated between the lawyers (and presumably their clients).
It is a criminal offence to criticise a court judgement.
Cheers,
Peter

Mike Harding · Guru

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
It is a criminal offence to criticise a court judgement.

Is it? Please provide a reference for that astonishing assertion.

Whenarewethere · Guru

If the Federal Government doesn't want people to come in to the hermit kingdom they better find professionals to write the laws accordingly.

Wanda · Guru

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
The judge made no decision. The result was negotiated between the lawyers (and presumably their clients).
It is a criminal offence to criticise a court judgement.
Cheers,
Peter

I'm a bit confused, so, who made the decision confuse

Ian

Mike Harding · Guru

Wanda wrote:
I'm a bit confused, so, who made the decision

The Commonwealth withdrew its case probably because it did not wish the judge to rule further in regard to the legality of specifying covid jabs as a condition of entry.

dorian · Guru

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-29/fact-check-can-you-criticise-conduct-courts-turnbull/8646494

Mike Harding · Guru

Thank you Dorian.

Yet again, Peter makes a wild assertion with only his opinion as supporting evidence.

erad · Guru

My reading on this is that the judge said that DjokoIdiot did not have enough time to prepare a case to appeal his internment, so the case was thrown out. What I want to know is 'How can DjokoIdiot or anyone for that matter come here illegally (without meeting the statutory requirements of the land), and have any legal right to appeal their internment?' This applies to any person who enters the country illegally. Our intrepid leader has said that every person coming into Oz MUST be fully vaxed. How come this guy gets in here without that?

I can see a BIG payout coming DjokoIdiot's way. If he does play (and of course he will), then he stands to win $4.4 Million. If he loses, he will claim that his internment meant that he could not train properly and thus his performance was affected. And who is going to have to pay this?: Guess who?