Rob Driver wrote:

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A Tesla on autopilot. WTF. ??

https://7news.com.au/news/car-accidents-melbourne/melbourne-woman-fighting-for-life-after-being-struck-by-car-in-hit-run-as-she-boarded-a-tram-in-armadale-c-6156671

Please someone tell me that we dont have cars driving on Australian roads on auto pilot let alone while under the control of P plate drivers.

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I have seen statistics that driverless vehicles are involved in less accidents than driven ones. In any case the vehicle has not had an opportunity to defend itself in court.

Let's wait for the car's logs to be examined, assuming Australian law permits such logs to be recorded.

Edit:

We had an interesting discussion on this subject in this thread:

https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t67533233/tesla-crashes-no-driver-4-hours-to-put-out-flames/

-- Edited by dorian on Wednesday 23rd of March 2022 09:37:54 AM

Is this yet another case of rushing into approval of new technology??

What makes you think it is approved?

Cheers,

Peter

Modern everyday cars are getting closer to autonomous.

Think about the features that are now being included with many new models:

• The GPS knows where to go.
• The inbuilt cameras can read speed signs and warn if you exceed the limit (roadworks for example)
• Sensors detect if you start to drift towards another lane. Mine applies gentle torque to the steering to get you back on track. Some actively steer unless you resist it
• If you attempt to change lanes (indicator on) and there is a vehicle there it will warn
• Headlights come on automatically and change between high and low beam as needed
• Windscreen wipers activate if a few drops of rain appear on the windscreen
• When in traffic, if you get too close to the car in front it will sound an alarm
• With adaptive cruise control activated it will keep a safe distance behind vehicles, braking as needed
• With an imminent collision detected and brakes already applied, the Emergency Braking system takes over to maximise the stopping
• When parking, sensors detect if there is something in front or behind and warn
• When reversing from a parallel park, sensors will warn if a vehicle is approaching

Some models pretension the seat belts and preload the brakes for faster emergency stop if a potential collision is detected
We have had ABS braking for years. Stability control is becoming a standard feature

It would only take minor tweaks to make these features more autonomous, rather than aids. Where the technology is not yet there is the ability to maintain position if there are no lane markers. Otherwise, they are already close to being driverless capable.

Like the change to horseless carriages, it's just a matter of time before these vehicles become mainstream. Continuing development will improve the technology. In a future time, maybe we will be getting in and sitting down like we do as bus and train passengers.

Whoever would have thought that we would be getting things delivered by drone. But it's happening.

 

-- Edited by Are We Lost on Wednesday 23rd of March 2022 01:13:20 PM

Did the automation of the car drive off, not stopping after hitting someone and then the driver had to be taken back to the scene by someone else. Sorry something stinks like fish left in the sun. Thorough investigation needed into this. Seems a way to easy out blaming the automation. And why the (you know what) was it on auto driving through busy city streets. Moron girl should not have a licence.

Tesla auto-pilot in Australia is little more than adaptive cruise control subject to lane control. These features are found in many vehicles now and legally available to everyone that holds any form driving licence in Australia. It isn't autonomous self-driving and autonomous self-driving isn't permitted under law as yet. Blame the inexperienced driver, not the vehicle, and be thankful they weren't behind the wheel of a Dodge Ram or similar.

Corndoggy wrote,

Did the automation of the car drive off, not stopping after hitting someone and then the driver had to be taken back to the scene by someone else. Sorry something stinks like fish left in the sun. Thorough investigation needed into this. Seems a way to easy out blaming the automation. And why the (you know what) was it on auto driving through busy city streets.

 

In this day and age when one is in a road accident of ones own making, that can result in being on the wrong side of the law, the first thing to do is if you are physically able to, is promptly exit the scene. This will achieve three things.

1) If you happen to be affected by alcohol, or any other prohibited substance, providing the law does not catch up with you first, do not give yourself up until at least 24hrs. This will make it difficult for law enforcement to prove that you were over the limit.

2) The next thing to do is to determine where you will attach blame. There are several avenues available to achieve this.

 "It was the auto pilot your honour"  "I had a momentary blackout" "She walked out in front of me" The one that will surely convince the beak, "I didn't see the tram"

If you have deep pockets, (very deep) engage a mouthpiece who will convince everyone that you suffer from some mental problem and was not totally "with it" at the time.

It appears to this old bloke that very few people these days are willing to accept responsibilty for their actions. The first thought is, "How can I get out of this?"

There can surely be no excuse for leaving the scene of an accident when someone is badly injured. We can only hope that the person will recover.

To sum up, the day that this little black duck would sit in a car without having full control ain't never going to happen folks! I would be a nervous wreck.

 

 

 

 

 

A few years ago I was called to accident on Pennant hills / Duffy road outside service station . A Volvo run up the back of truck then onto one of our street light poles . The Volvo driver said he was relying on the car stopping behind the truck ! Said he used it all the time ! Well ? Atleast he was driving the correct car . Lol we couldnt believe our ears !! My bro in Chicago did a lot of programming for GPS etc over 20 years ago .

Some accidents are from
Crazed ice addicts etc . Grouping them all together is not true statistics ! Some idiots treat them as driverless ! Just dumb !