This IPCC report is released

DMaxer · Guru

This IPCC report is released

KevinJ · Senior Member

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Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

dogbox wrote:
DMaxer wrote:

I could not agree more, Oldbloke and Dicko1. There is nothing like receiving a stirring lecture from someone who believes that a five minute search on Google equates to years of academic study and research in the specific field. There is also this ingrained belief that only they know which articles are correct, which people to believe and that anyone who does not follow their mantra needs to be criticised.

-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 07:30:59 AM

that sort of comment can be taken either way , as i don't know where you get your information .

when i was a little boy the talk was that an ice age was coming, now that the we have avoided the ice age we are going to roast. what does that tell me ,it tells me that the experts have change their minds due probably to more information becoming available . i won't be around to see who is using the right information but my kids and grand kids ect ect will be. so if there is some thing that i can do to save the planet i will do it as long as it doesn't send me broke .
what is better to be cremated or buried one uses a lot of energy the other takes up space and could produce green house gases ?

You're right dogbox, we are supposed to be, very slowly, moving into an ice Age, but that has been reversed by climate change. Well done.

It would be interesting to know if the climate deniers have read any of the IPCC reports or they just read the rubbish that supports their beliefs. Of course, even if the evidence was presented to them, they would not change their minds.

Keep bashing those rocks together.

Clarky 1 · Senior Member

DMaxer wrote:
I know little of the sciences Dogbox. However, when I find an issue in which I have no knowledge or skill then I listen to people that do possess this knowledge and skill.
It is not just a few crackpots talking about this, it is the majority of the world's scientists. These scientists base their opinion on proper science, not what what someone down the pub or on a caravan forum thinks.
Of course there were ridiculous predictions in the past. However, those ridiculous predictions were not made by the majority of the world's scientists, they were made by some person who then managed to get publicity because of their stupid prediction.
I think what is important is to identify that there is two issues at least. One is the acceptance of climate change and the other is how it is combated. I don't agree with the forking out of billions of dollars to a UN think tank. I think the issue is to accept the change and to do things locally to try and reduce the risk. Whether this be more efficient energy or CO2 release, that is a matter for the scientists and academics. Handing large sums of money to overseas interests is in my view a total mistake. If each country does there bit locally then we may well be half way there.

-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 09:39:02 AM

You were very quick to jump on the bandwagon to offer support to the criticism of Rob Driver.

Your comment about not wanting to fork out billions of dollars indicates that you have not read the link in its entirety or other wise you would have seen the recommendations thrown in by Australias representative on that committee.

To assume that a Tertiary education makes someone wise enough to make decisions as to the future on any topic as opposed to someone who has on the ground experience, is foolhardy to say the least.

You and others were quick to claim that Rob didnt know what he was talking about maybe because of his education.

Well as I pointed out, the rep for Aus on that committee has no qualifications either.

Maybe we should only comment if we have initials after our names but it is quite noticeable that many who are vocal on here wont post under their correct name, so that wont work either.

But hang on I could get my wife to post comment, or maybe Angie but that wont work because Angie had already stated that she wont contribute to this forum any more due to rudeness. Both ladies have tertiary education.

Many if you are sad individuals where you dont mind coming onto a forum full of secondary educated members and ask a question about a UHF but when those same people provide their view that the content of a link is in fact a SCAM then all of a sudden they are wrong.

The OP asked in other posts for polite comments

I noticed that although several members before Rob were anti the original info, it was Rob that has copped the brunt of criticism.

It was indirect in some cases but still there.

Many of the public figures you and others are holding in esteem with regard to their qualifications for climate change are nothing more than full time career malingerers.

I challenge anyone to read the link in its entirety and then provide the information that proves Rob incorrect.

You know what, I recon some of you are frightened of anyone speaking the truth for fear of damaging the little cocoon which surrounds your life.

As Rob said It is a SCAM for money in the disguise of fear mongering which is clearly directed at the gullible.

-- Edited by Clarky 1 on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 12:05:10 PM

Clarky 1 · Senior Member

Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
dogbox wrote:
DMaxer wrote:

I could not agree more, Oldbloke and Dicko1. There is nothing like receiving a stirring lecture from someone who believes that a five minute search on Google equates to years of academic study and research in the specific field. There is also this ingrained belief that only they know which articles are correct, which people to believe and that anyone who does not follow their mantra needs to be criticised.

-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 07:30:59 AM

that sort of comment can be taken either way , as i don't know where you get your information .

when i was a little boy the talk was that an ice age was coming, now that the we have avoided the ice age we are going to roast. what does that tell me ,it tells me that the experts have change their minds due probably to more information becoming available . i won't be around to see who is using the right information but my kids and grand kids ect ect will be. so if there is some thing that i can do to save the planet i will do it as long as it doesn't send me broke .
what is better to be cremated or buried one uses a lot of energy the other takes up space and could produce green house gases ?
You're right dogbox, we are supposed to be, very slowly, moving into an ice Age, but that has been reversed by climate change. Well done.

It would be interesting to know if the climate deniers have read any of the IPCC reports or they just read the rubbish that supports their beliefs. Of course, even if the evidence was presented to them, they would not change their minds.

Keep bashing those rocks together.

What did mankind do to start the last ice age.

If they were involved maybe they made wooden wheels to replace stone ones.

I cant believe this.

Plain Truth · Guru

Worth a look.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1VJtER2IUE

msg · Guru

what's the biggest industry in the world these days? Influencing, scams and misinformation. All to enforce the Henny Penny effect.

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

Clarky 1 wrote:
Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
dogbox wrote:
DMaxer wrote:

I could not agree more, Oldbloke and Dicko1. There is nothing like receiving a stirring lecture from someone who believes that a five minute search on Google equates to years of academic study and research in the specific field. There is also this ingrained belief that only they know which articles are correct, which people to believe and that anyone who does not follow their mantra needs to be criticised.

-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 07:30:59 AM

that sort of comment can be taken either way , as i don't know where you get your information .

when i was a little boy the talk was that an ice age was coming, now that the we have avoided the ice age we are going to roast. what does that tell me ,it tells me that the experts have change their minds due probably to more information becoming available . i won't be around to see who is using the right information but my kids and grand kids ect ect will be. so if there is some thing that i can do to save the planet i will do it as long as it doesn't send me broke .
what is better to be cremated or buried one uses a lot of energy the other takes up space and could produce green house gases ?
You're right dogbox, we are supposed to be, very slowly, moving into an ice Age, but that has been reversed by climate change. Well done.

It would be interesting to know if the climate deniers have read any of the IPCC reports or they just read the rubbish that supports their beliefs. Of course, even if the evidence was presented to them, they would not change their minds.

Keep bashing those rocks together.
What did mankind do to start the last ice age.
If they were involved maybe they made wooden wheels to replace stone ones.
I cant believe this.

You obviously didn't read up on this. Man had negligible effect on the previous ice age so you're right you can't believe it because it's not true.

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

Clarky1 wrote:

'Maybe we should only comment if we have initials after our names but it is quite noticeable that many who are vocal on here wont post under their correct name, so that wont work either.'

They probably won't use their correct name because, like me, they're afraid of being physically attacked by people like you and Rob.

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

Clarky 1 wrote:
DMaxer wrote:
I know little of the sciences Dogbox. However, when I find an issue in which I have no knowledge or skill then I listen to people that do possess this knowledge and skill.
It is not just a few crackpots talking about this, it is the majority of the world's scientists. These scientists base their opinion on proper science, not what what someone down the pub or on a caravan forum thinks.
Of course there were ridiculous predictions in the past. However, those ridiculous predictions were not made by the majority of the world's scientists, they were made by some person who then managed to get publicity because of their stupid prediction.
I think what is important is to identify that there is two issues at least. One is the acceptance of climate change and the other is how it is combated. I don't agree with the forking out of billions of dollars to a UN think tank. I think the issue is to accept the change and to do things locally to try and reduce the risk. Whether this be more efficient energy or CO2 release, that is a matter for the scientists and academics. Handing large sums of money to overseas interests is in my view a total mistake. If each country does there bit locally then we may well be half way there.

-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 09:39:02 AM
You were very quick to jump on the bandwagon to offer support to the criticism of Rob Driver.
Why not? Both you and he are quick to criticise others.
Your comment about not wanting to fork out billions of dollars indicates that you have not read the link in its entirety or other wise you would have seen the recommendations thrown in by Australias representative on that committee.
From my experience it's a waist out thine reading the rubbish that Rob links to.
To assume that a Tertiary education makes someone wise enough to make decisions as to the future on any topic as opposed to someone who has on the ground experience, is foolhardy to say the least.
So you're against education now? Gees, when was the last time that happened in history?
You and others were quick to claim that Rob didnt know what he was talking about maybe because of his education.
Week he certainly doesn't seem intelligent.
Well as I pointed out, the rep for Aus on that committee has no qualifications either.
Maybe we should only comment if we have initials after our names but it is quite noticeable that many who are vocal on here wont post under their correct name, so that wont work either.
But hang on I could get my wife to post comment, or maybe Angie but that wont work because Angie had already stated that she wont contribute to this forum any more due to rudeness. Both ladies have tertiary education.
Probably your comments?
Many if you are sad individuals where you dont mind coming onto a forum full of secondary educated members and ask a question about a UHF but when those same people provide their view that the content of a link is in fact a SCAM then all of a sudden they are wrong.
But it's not a scam. Only gullible people would think that.
The OP asked in other posts for polite comments
I did but a few people are still not but being polite so I may as well join them is Cindy can't control the Bohemians.
I noticed that although several members before Rob were anti the original info, it was Rob that has copped the brunt of criticism.
Oh can't poor didums take it. Toughen up.
It was indirect in some cases but still there.
Many of the public figures you and others are holding in esteem with regard to their qualifications for climate change are nothing more than full time career malingerers.
Well yes. That's what they study. If they didn't have the knowledge then they'd resort to publishing rubbish for the Finke minority.
I challenge anyone to read the link in its entirety and then provide the information that proves Rob incorrect.
Not worth it.
You know what, I recon some of you are frightened of anyone speaking the truth for fear of damaging the little cocoon which surrounds your life.
And yet that's exactly what the climate deniers are doing.
As Rob said It is a SCAM for money in the disguise of fear mongering which is clearly directed at the gullible.
And you done people are do gullible that they think Rob is right. That's a good one.

-- Edited by Clarky 1 on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 12:05:10 PM

Mike Harding · Guru

Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
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Clarky1 wrote:
'Maybe we should only comment if we have initials after our names but it is quite noticeable that many who are vocal on here wont post under their correct name, so that wont work either.'
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They probably won't use their correct name because, like me, they're afraid of being physically attacked by people like you and Rob.

Lightbulb: you spend an inordinate amount of time and energy on this forum wining about how others "abuse" you and then you post the most abusive, and probably defamatory, post I have seen in all my years on this forum.

You own an immediate and humble apology to those you have abused.

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

Plain Truth wrote:
Worth a look.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1VJtER2IUE

Very interesting that professor Tim Ball has scammed all those people but:

He has a PhD in geography not atmospherics,

His papers on climate denial are NOT peered reviewed and are greatly criticised by climate scientists.

It's been proven in the 1850's that CO2 IS a greenhouse gas but he can't recognise the science,

He writes books instead of peer reviewed SCIENTIFIC papers, probably to cash in on those really gullible people who'll believe any trash,

He's admitted to lying about his qualifications and it has been decided in court that he's not qualified.

The list goes on but if course all those climate deniers won't believe any of it because they are so gullible.

-- Edited by Buzz Lightbulb on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 04:03:45 PM

-- Edited by Buzz Lightbulb on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 04:04:08 PM

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

Mike Harding wrote:
Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
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Clarky1 wrote:
'Maybe we should only comment if we have initials after our names but it is quite noticeable that many who are vocal on here wont post under their correct name, so that wont work either.'
----
They probably won't use their correct name because, like me, they're afraid of being physically attacked by people like you and Rob.
Lightbulb: you spend an inordinate amount of time and energy on this forum wining about how others "abuse" you and then you post the most abusive, and probably defamatory, post I have seen in all my years on this forum.
You own an immediate and humble apology to those you have abused.

Well you see Mike, sorry Harding, I've put up with the abuse for long enough. My pleas for people to be nice, and it's only a few of YOU who are the abusers, have been ignore so I've decided to join the club. If you can't take the pressure buddy, don't read the text COB.

Oh and by the way Harding, I AM afraid of meeting those people in person.

-- Edited by Buzz Lightbulb on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 04:05:05 PM

-- Edited by Buzz Lightbulb on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 05:16:55 PM

Plain Truth · Guru

Good old Tim.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1VJtER2IUE

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

Plain Truth wrote:
Good old Tim.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1VJtER2IUE

Isn't that the same video that was previously posted? It's got the back of the heads of the same audience.

-- Edited by Buzz Lightbulb on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 05:34:49 PM

Plain Truth · Guru

Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
Plain Truth wrote:
Good old Tim.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1VJtER2IUE

Isn't that the same video that was previously posted? It's got the back of the heads of the same audience.

-- Edited by Buzz Lightbulb on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 05:34:49 PM

Sorry about that Buzzz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeNDSeknn_c

msg · Guru

I fail to see what you are all arguing about. Sometimes you post one thing and then the opposite. The name of the game is denigrate all posters regardless of whether they are arguing for your thoughts or against you. Just argue no matter what.

-- Edited by msg on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 05:42:22 PM

Buzz Lightbulb · Guru

Plain Truth wrote:
Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
Plain Truth wrote:
Good old Tim.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1VJtER2IUE

Isn't that the same video that was previously posted? It's got the back of the heads of the same audience.

-- Edited by Buzz Lightbulb on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 05:34:49 PM
Sorry about that Buzzz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeNDSeknn_c

It's interesting that the first summary of Tim Flannery's comments don't make sense, but then when one watches the full context, it all makes sense.

I do feel that Tim F. is very optimistic to think that poverty may be reduced. It'll take the elimination of the influence the super rich to do that. Let's hope he's right, the alternative is scary.