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Americanisation Of Australian Sport


Why is every code of sport now called SUPER, eg. Super netball, Super league etc.

What was wrong with plain old good old netball, cricket etc.

Then we have Super overs, Super goals etc.

Good players are now referred to as Super Stars or Legends, shouldn't that be reserved for Bradman?

Why do we have to have flame throwers shooting up into the air when someone scores a goal or hits a six?

The last game of AFL that I went to which was at the MCG, I felt like I was at a Yanky baseball game.

I've almost got to the point of not watching any sport, I feel like I'm in the USA.

 

 



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Why does Australian sport need a "grand" final? Why not a simple "final" like every other country?

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and  some ex/retired players  who have become comentaters , who dont  know  when to  shut it



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"The last game of AFL that I went to which was at the MCG, I felt like I was at a Yanky baseball game"

Now come on 86, we are not supposed to offend anyone on this forum disbeliefno That comment offends me smile Baseball is my sport and love it, always have, I love watching the Atlanta Braves on the Telavish and all the off field stuff as well, adds to the excitement.

 

 

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dorian wrote:

Why does Australian sport need a "grand" final? Why not a simple "final" like every other country?


 I havent been a kid for a long time, but as one I played in several grand finals. Maybe they are unique to Australia.



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Dougwe wrote:

"The last game of AFL that I went to which was at the MCG, I felt like I was at a Yanky baseball game"

Now come on 86, we are not supposed to offend anyone on this forum disbeliefno That comment offends me smile Baseball is my sport and love it, always have, I love watching the Atlanta Braves on the Telavish and all the off field stuff as well, adds to the excitement.

 

 

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 Thats fine Dougwe, just leave all the extra BS to the Yanks, they love it, but why do we have to follow their example.

Why are our sporting teams named after American icons like Wildcats etc?

Why not call them the Dingoes?

ps. I'm not knocking baseball in any way.



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I have always loved the cricket and the rugby league and up to a few years ago I used to enjoy most of the commentary. I found over the last few years every one is an expert and everyone seems to shout at the top of their lungs when anything at all happens. Add to that the drivel they speak and the need to have stupid nicknames for all the other commentators and there is the demise of televised sport for me.

I have always enjoyed the commentary of the cricket from the UK where they seem to understand that people are not deaf and not blind. I used to think that Alison Mitchell was a great cricket commentator until I heard her on Australian television. Just like the others, she now needs to shout at everything that happens. Perhaps the only decent commentary these days comes from ABC radio but unfortunately they are starting to recruit shouters and know it alls.

What I do these days is just turn the sound off and follow it myself, whether it be rugby league or cricket. I find I get a much better perspective and enjoyment and I don't get irritated by mindless moronic ramblings. 



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I still remember Channel Nine's "Wide World of Sport". It primarily consisted of a few minutes of cricket or footy in between ad breaks. Each block of content was padded with what we missed if we had just tuned in, and padded by what was to come if we bothered to return after the ad break. The Sunday "edition" was just a shuffled version of the Saturday edition.

What annoys me these days is the half hour of pre-match commentary. The only thing more boring than cricket is watching people talking about cricket. Is this something we inherited from the Americans, because I don't remember having to deal with this rubbish when I was young.



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I'm with Phillip Adams. Sport, I would rather stick a fork in my eye!



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Americanisation has not just consumed most, if not all, of our major sports, but our lives as well.no
As far as the Grand final goes, probably unique to our game, has always been there leave it alone it IS the best game in the world......oops....in my biggrinopinion!!

I should add, by a proverbial mile!!
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At least we don't have "World Series .... " where only USA teams play.

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Yep , always a Grand Final in Aussie Rules.

As for names of teams. The Tassie Jack Jumpers, 1st year in comp and into the Grand Final Series Play off, or what ever basket ball does to make it a 5 game final.

" jack jumper", nasty biting bloody ant.

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Sport in particular NRL, AFL, NFL and MLB, provide me with hours of entertainment, even last night watching the Broncos defeat the Bunnies was a great interlude from the crud being presented by all FTA television networks.

 



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Hey! This tread is going OK.smile
At least its better than arguing over WDH's.
I didn't know whether to post it or not, its just a personal gripe.



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watsea wrote:

At least we don't have "World Series .... " where only USA teams play.


 That used to be priceless, and don't forget all the rule changes the yanks made when the aussies looked like they were going to win the America's cup in sailing. England rules the waves but America waves the rules.



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The reason it is called the World Series is because back when it all began the only teams playing baseball at a high level were the American teams.  There existed at that time two leagues in the USA, the National League and the American League. In 1903 they decided to have a playoff between the winners of the two leagues and it was dubbed "World Series" because they were the two elite leagues in the World.

The name of the contest stuck and the rest is history. I have attended a few games of baseball whilst in the USA and it is just unbelievable. The ground fielding, the speed of the pitching and the massive hitting makes Big Bash or 20/20 cricket look like kids in the backyard.



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I remember a cricket commentator, years ago, said "if you have nothing to add then keep your trap shut. Sadly there are only a couple of commentators, across all televised sports, that abide by that suggestion today.

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I never watched nor listened to sport. I found it boring unless I, or my children, w were playing it. However, when JJ and later JJJ had HG Nelson and Roy Slaven commenting on, I think, Sunday afternoons sports games, I laughed so much. smile



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This is how you'll know when Australian sport has really been Americanised:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football_rules

Officials also call for media time-outs, which allow time for television and radio advertising. They also stop the clock after a change of possession of the ball from one team to the other. Successful PATs (Point(s) After Touchdown), a field goal try, or a kickoff may also warrant stopping the clock. If an instant replay challenge is called during the game, the referees signal for a media time out. The referee signals these media time-outs by first using the time out signal, then extending both arms in a horizontal position.



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The Americanisation of Australia has been going on for 100yrs +/- and is nearly complete. We (Australia) are losing our culture and identity. Anything truly Australian is a curiosity and worthy of Tourist Attraction status and exploited.



-- Edited by msg on Friday 6th of May 2022 11:57:26 AM

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I like to watch motorsport. After lots of yelling at the TV at loud uncalled for unnecessary comments, my wife says "turn the sound off".
Motorsport is only half the story without the sounds - V8s at Bathurst for example. Mark Skaife comes to mind. Average driver but
seriously annoying commentator. Take a leaf out of Neil Crompton's book Mark. Murray Walker use to be quite loud as well and as most
British motorsport commentators, highly biased when a British driver was in front. I have written many times to the British outfit that
televises motorsport and Australian TV uses as their coverage explaining that the action in on the track NOT in the commentary box.
This is true across all televised sports - the action is on the field/track/arena etc NOT in the commentary box
There was a time when TV did a handful of laps with an onboard camera. The commentators would let you know in advance and advise
you turned to sound up. No commentary just engine noise - until Skaife got on the scene.
Quite frankly I don't know why we have to follow what the Yanks do. There is so much more in Europe to learn from.

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dorian wrote:

This is how you'll know when Australian sport has really been Americanised:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football_rules

Officials also call for media time-outs, which allow time for television and radio advertising. They also stop the clock after a change of possession of the ball from one team to the other. Successful PATs (Point(s) After Touchdown), a field goal try, or a kickoff may also warrant stopping the clock. If an instant replay challenge is called during the game, the referees signal for a media time out. The referee signals these media time-outs by first using the time out signal, then extending both arms in a horizontal position.


 Give it time & that's what will be happening in Australia.



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Will we ever have football or basketball scholarships for our universities?

How long before footy is played every day of the week?


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deverall11 wrote:

I like to watch motorsport. After lots of yelling at the TV at loud uncalled for unnecessary comments, my wife says "turn the sound off".
Motorsport is only half the story without the sounds - V8s at Bathurst for example. Mark Skaife comes to mind. AVERAGE driver but
seriously annoying commentator. Take a leaf out of Neil Crompton's book Mark. Murray Walker use to be quite loud as well and as most
British motorsport commentators, highly biased when a British driver was in front. I have written many times to the British outfit that
televises motorsport and Australian TV uses as their coverage explaining that the action in on the track NOT in the commentary box.
This is true across all televised sports - the action is on the field/track/arena etc NOT in the commentary box
There was a time when TV did a handful of laps with an onboard camera. The commentators would let you know in advance and advise
you turned to sound up. No commentary just engine noise - until Skaife got on the scene.
Quite frankly I don't know why we have to follow what the Yanks do. There is so much more in Europe to learn from.


 Mark Skaife AVERAGE driver, you say? With 482 race starts, 90 race wins, 42 event wins, 41 pole positions, and 5 drivers champioships, along with no fewer than 6 wins at the Bathurst 1000, surely he deserves more credit and to be treated with a little more respect than that? Long live Godzilla. Cheers



-- Edited by yobarr on Saturday 7th of May 2022 04:54:51 PM

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Anyone driven a Holden Commodore super car? Yep. Brother owned one. 2000 Skaife model.

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Spot on yobarr, and he drove open wheelers well too.

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Anyone driven a Holden Commodore super car? Yep. Brother owned one. 2000 Skaife model.


 Not a Super car, but my SS Commodore produces 530HP, plenty fast enough for an Old Bloke! Had suspension and brakes upgraded too, so it is lots of fun on bitumen, although a bit of a handful on dirt roads! Cheers



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peter67 wrote:

Spot on yobarr, and he drove open wheelers well too.


 Yeah Peter, I had actually forgotten that. And what's more, he wasn't in a position to have the rules changed to suit himself, unlike another Holden "Hero". Cheers



-- Edited by yobarr on Saturday 7th of May 2022 07:07:50 PM

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