An interesting question.

We should (must) all be responsible for our choices and actions, dying does not, and should not, turn someone into a saint.

We have a saying in English culture; "Do not speak ill of the dead" and there is sense in this because the dead cannot respond and speaking ill will likely distress those who are grieving BUT neither should we shy from truth, I guess what I mean is that there is a time and a place for such things.

Some people are simply evil and their death is of benefit to the rest of the human race. Pol Pot may have been kind to his mum but the world is better off without him.

My very close and dear friend, Eddie, chose to kill himself by walking in front of a truck, I think, at the time, him mind was disturbed but I've never really forgiven him for such a callous disregard of the poor bloody truck driver's feelings.

I suggest it was insensitive of the girl to make her comment in that place at that time (just youth) but I think she is right.

No way known should this 'young man' have anything of consequence named for him, certainly not the renaming of an existing park. No matter what his virtues may have been, his final actions were those of a selfish inconsiderate person who had no concern for the safety of others on the road, nor, apparently, his own safety. The big loser here is the bus driver, who may never recover from this 'accident' caused by an irresponsible individual reportedly riding an unlicensed and unlit dirt bike at night on a public road. My sympathies go to the bus driver, and indeed to the young woman involved in this as she was simply voicing what should be abundantly clear to anybody with any idea of common decency. Sob stories about people whose own irresponsible and selfish actions caused their death do not sit well with me. Cheers

My immediate impulse is not to speak ill of the dead.   If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all.    Those who really know me would no doubt find it strange to hear me espousing these time worn sayings (clichés perhaps).  LOL

Interesting to see how people trying to express the same or at least similar views choose different language.  Just look at a few of the preceding posts.

The group member who highlighted the effect on the bus driver may have avoided the attack on herself by just stopping at that & not highlighting 'the reckless actions of the deceased' etc.    Of course that is not excusing the totally unacceptable attack that sadly seemingly is part of todays social media.

 

 

Buzz Lightbulb wrote:

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My sympathies go to the bus driver, the young woman and the parents of the young man. Not however, to the young man himself.

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 This is the most intelligent comment you've made in days. Cheers

The emotional reaction of the local residents is unfortunately split.

The young man acted foolishly and without any consideration to himself and others.
The bus driver did not go out to work to have to be involved in a fatal road accident and for that she will never be the same.
Have the service for the young man, be kind to the driver and to all others concerned.
Leave the park name as it stands, to honour a silly act be it deliberate or not should not be considered.
The mention of this is again strongly driven by personal emotion.

Buzz Lightbulb wrote:

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My sympathies go to the bus driver, the young woman and the parents of the young man. Not however, to the young man himself.

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Yep, absolutely Buzz

Ian